Rust converter

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Stillboardin

After reading the "Every new painter must read" section it says NEVER use rust converter.
Well, several months ago when I first started dismantling my car to restore, I had a lot of surface rust on the front valence back side. Since I was not ready to primer I used some rust mort on the backside to prevent it from further rust before I knew any better.
I will be spraying some epoxy in a few weeks and need to find out the best way to neutralize this or get rid of it so it does not cause problems.
Do I simply sand it off?
 
Barry,

I have some pretty heavy pitting in the trunk, but not bad enough to replace the trunk pan. There is also some pitting on the quarter panel (top of quarter panel but on the interior trunk side). I am going to use some rust converter and encapsulator from Eastwood. Can I use the Epoxy primer over the encapsulator?

Thanks,
Chris
 
Rust converters are bad news

Chris, it is a gamble at best but may be OK inside a trunk.

Remember, don't blame the epoxy if bubbles down the road, as the epoxy had nothing to do with it.
 
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Chris
WHat I would do is simply clean up the rust as good as you can by blasting, and spray 2 good coats of epoxy on the area. The epoxy will stay flexible and keep the pitted area sealed. As long as no air can get inside, the rust progress will stop.

The "rust converter and encapsulator from Eastwood" will not prevent the rust from continuing. It will just be harder to see it working. I have seen many cases where that type of stuff is removed later to find that the panels were totally ruined by rust, but kept covered so everyone thought the rust had stopped.

Aaron
 
Why are so many people big on these rust converters. I had a guy stop in last week that wanted his whole floor inside and out to be covered in this stuff.

But yet he want's to put the car on rotisserie,, I don't get it.
 
I don't understand someone wanting to convert rust. If left long enough, it will "convert" itself soon enough. It converts to rust chips, then rust powder. You can "encapsulate" it when ever you want to. Simply grind it, collect the grindings and them place them into a capsule.

I know that they all guarantee that their products work. The story is well known. WHen the product fails to work as claimed, the company will be out of business, or there was a problem with the application that caused it to fail.

Replace the rusted metal or clean as good as possible and then seal with epoxy. Nothing else I have ever seen will accomplish the same results.

Aaron
 
A coworker came by with his 69 Firebird to ask my opinion on floor pan replacement. I gave my 2 cents worth and he seemed like he was going to follow my advice. I stopped by his house a month later and looked at his project. He had replaced the passenger side floor pan very similar to my suggestion and he was very pleased with the result. then he went on to tell me how it was ready for carpet as he had used POR 15 on the less rusty areas. Then spray can primer.

I tried to steer him down the SPI epoxy path, but he listened to some kid at Autozone .
Next time someone asks how to do something, I am just going to refer them to Shines advice column and keep my 2 cents in my pocket.
 
dont send them to me...... i'll just piss them off. i can think of no use for por15 except for farm implements .
 
Chad.S;2036 said:
Why are so many people big on these rust converters. I had a guy stop in last week that wanted his whole floor inside and out to be covered in this stuff.

But yet he wants to put the car on rotisserie,, I don't get it.
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The answer to that is simple, this stuff made by only two or three companies and under 100 different label names was used years ago when all we had was steel railings on the front porch and steel lawn chairs.
These product were made, so once a year Momma could go out and brush all the rust spots on the railings and lawn chairs and they would be good all summer and then next year do it over,

Well those two things are now long gone, and the mail order marketers know, no body shop is going to use this crapo, so the advertise marketing the hobbyist people, or the do it your selfer, who read the ads. The ads are good, I have had the urge to buy after reading some of these ads.

No way a do it your self guy can defend himself against buying one of these great products unless he does a lot of Internet reading to have the knowledge to know better.
 
shine;2047 said:
... i can think of no use for por15 except for farm implements .
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What about a rusty rooster?
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Could be a close comparison.......

I would think that using a rust converter, would be almost the same as using this stuff on your head. Sooner or later, someone is going to find out the truth.

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