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Transtar Reducers

Discussion in 'Other Products' started by El Toro, Jul 29, 2017.

  1. El Toro

    El Toro Member

    I know the SPI reducers are best in the Si products but what about Transtar reducers are they top grade and does any one use them? My jobber has a great deal on the mid tem 5 gal can, should I pass or just use on collision jobs ? thanks
     
  2. Better grade than some not on the same level as SPI or PPG DT. I used to use gallons of the stuff on collision work but never used it with SPI. Barry advises using only a premium reducer with SPI. IF you are shooting Omni or the like the Transtar stuff will be fine for that, but the Transtar Mid-Temp is really more like a fast.
     
  3. El Toro

    El Toro Member

    Chris I use Wanda on lower line collision repairs and Diamont on better repairs and of course SPI Euro clear
     
  4. shine

    shine Member

    then way use that transtar stuff ? it takes only one weak link .
     
  5. DATEC

    DATEC Member

    Those kind of questions make me wonder just what do you know about doing this kind of work? with the price SPI is and the quality it has why are people looking to go even cheaper. SPI is the best product with the best support at the best price you will find anywhere end of story.
    Seriously people stop being stupid and stick with a product known to work with each other when mixed together. I have seen and tried to help people with problems only to find they stupidly mixed components together from different manufactures and had a failure, then I'm asked why and what happened that it failed. I just want to smack them across the head with a bat after studying the issue when that is reveled, just plain stupid.
     
  6. El Toro

    El Toro Member

    Let me say this and with no disrespect I have been doing body and paint work ( raised in a European collision shop ) since the age of 15 now 62. So know a little but still learning and I was just asking about transtar reducers. At first was told the same thing about SPI clears "Why mix products " by the big guys. With that being said I use and support Barry and all of the SPI products. I will use some of the lower grade stuff on the bottom end used car work and that is about 10 to 15 % of my work. Don't think it's a stupit question and of course a bat along my head may not have an effect .LOL
     
  7. crashtech

    crashtech Combo Man

    I think cheap reducer works pretty well as gun cleaning solvent, myself. But even premium reducer is the cheapest part of the paint puzzle, while the penalty for using the wrong stuff can be pretty expensive. Is it really worth saving a few bucks per car to go cheap in this area? So many problems can be traced to solvent-related issues.
     
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  8. El Toro

    El Toro Member

    Crash you are 100% right .
     
  9. Barry

    Barry Paint Fanatic Staff Member

    Most of you who talk to me know I don't say you have to use my this or that, I have always said just use a good quality reducer like the DT series or the UR series.

    Transtar in the past was one I said was ok to use for years and then out of the blue about 2 years ago I started getting calls with problems mostly in the 5000 clear that requires a reducer.
    After a number of these calls, I stopped recommending as I knew at that point either the formula was changed or they went to a cheap source to make the reducer for them.
    This is why I like the tech calls, one problem can be anything being the cause but when you start getting dozens of calls the same thing, something is up.
     
  10. shine

    shine Member

    this is the problem. you cant mix collision and custom. what a restoration or custom shop would never use is fine for collision work. the car will never be seen again and likely sold within 6 months .
    i wouldn't use trans star for anything in my shop but that just means there is no place in custom work for it . car lots dont exactly pay for top shelf anything .
     
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  11. Senile Old Fart

    Senile Old Fart Oldtimer

    I don't see where you are saving any money using Transtar medium reducer. $41 a gallon or $165 for a 5 gallon of SPI medium reducer is a great bargain.
    Bargain materials may save you 10% or so that is a until a job goes bad and you spend far mor on redo than you saved.

    just my .02 worth.
     
  12. crashtech

    crashtech Combo Man

    I wish I could buy 5's of SPI. It really is the best deal going.
     

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