Thinking of getting an orbital and trying the Norton system

Keep in mind orange peel and urethane wave are two diferent things.
Peel can be rid of with fine grits like 1000 to 2000 paper.
But it won't get rid of the wave, it'll be smooth but not straight.
To get it straight needs the coarser grits.
It's more due to the grit selection than the block.
You won't see much difference from a hard block when useing the fine grits.
They don't straighten, they smooth
It's also important in how you sand to get it straight.
Long strokes from edge to edge of panels and/or body lines.
Following through with your strokes.
Short back and forth strokes can show as lines.
To get one truely straight takes some pretty aggressive sanding,
way past just the leveling of orange peel.
And of course, your primer has to already be straight to start with.:cool:
 
pictures would be nice of da's and accessories :). i need to get a decent da. are we painters and sculpters? :) i dont like presta. i do 1500, 2000, sandpaper wet by hand (nothing bigger than motorcycle parts, round stuff ugh) then menzerna, with foam pads on a hf air polisher. someone here taught me the sanding a drip or wave trick masking area with tape, ive also used sand paper on a chopstick on a taped off area to get a drip on the edge of a fender. i know its a redundant fact, but what ive found is if you take the time to spray good clear coats, you dont have to spend much time, cutting and buffing! i still have not tried any 3m polishes... i have learned so much here. thanks guys!
 
i am a jobber so i get from the warehouse. the stuff is a bit difficult to find. before i was a jobber only place i got it was through amazon. since your mail ordering anyway just pm me. i can ship it to you.
 
Jim, I'll keep that in mind as well, can you get the 3000 DA film?
 
bob, i carry the 3m foam discs in 3000. pt# 02085. i believe i have 1 box of the norton pink 3000 film left. its been sitting here. i never use it because i like the 3m ones. i don't even think they make it anymore. im sure there was a lawsuit over that because its an exact copy of 3m trizact film.
 
Jim, do you use the finishing film with or without the holes? I'm needing some 6" discs in 1000 & 1500 grit (50ct boxes) also the interface pad. Can you PM me a price on this? Thanks.
 
I tried to get some of the local stores to carry Eagle but when I said the stuff works better and lasts longer than any other I have tried-they didn't want anything to do with it. Seems the store mentality around here is better to carry a lesser performing product and sell more of it untill their competitor starts selling something better-then they all switch.
 
Mustang408;6223 said:
Also interested in finishing sanding disks. Thought I would throw up a link.

Looks like the BUY button for various products sends you to Amazon.
Eagle Abrasives

Nice deal on the Sample Kit
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Thanks for the link. I just ordered the sample pack. I'll probably be getting more from Jim C soon as well.
 
Everyone i have ever given the eagle paper to has come back to me and said wow, its much nicer than the 3m stuff.
 
jim when you do helmets and motorcycle parts, since they are round do you cut and buff those by hand or with a small buffer or da, or you just do a killer clear job that just needs a little buffing?
 
everything is sanded and buffed. only things that don't get done around here....usually, are helmets or very small delicate pieces. those i can get to where the clear looks almost like a sanded and buffed finish anyway right out of the gun. i am using a da on pretty much everything. occasionally i will do something by hand like sanding out a run or something like that. other than that im using a da. i've done so much sanding with one i don't thing twice about going right up to edges or in tight spots. for those that don't have that kind of feel with one i would not recommend that since you'll burn through an edge in a split second. for a buffer on small parts or tight spots i do have my mini dynabrade buffer. 3", very expensive but one of the best tools i ever bought. those cheapy cp trigger style ones suck.
 
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