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for your process of cut and buff you mentioned how much time do you figure you have in it, and are you doing it by yourself?

Looks awesome!!
 
I'm in a cast right now so ryan did he sanding on this one, did a great job but was very time consuming, he works 8-3 and I bet he had 4 days into sanding. Seems like a lot but he sure got it flat.
 
As far as buffing I had 5hrs into the shell, did the doors one night after work and the fenders the next night, I don't remember how many hours were into buffing doors and fenders. probably a little less than 2 hrs a night.
 
Usually takes me 30-40 hours to cut/buff one. depending on the job could be less. I'm like you, after paint the thing sits around for a good bit. I hate doing it sometimes when there is a full shop, but I know the end result is so much better when it has had some good sun time after cutting.
 
Yep!

A friend of mine likes to get on them the very next day...even in the winter and doesn't have a heated booth (uses the heat in the shop to keep temp up) and does nothing to bake them. As he is buffing you can still print it.....well...you can imagine what that looks like in 6 months. I'd rather do the waiting and buff a rock than do it that way just to get it done. Good thing universal buffs the same even months after paint. :)
 
Chad.S;14512 said:
I'm in a cast right now so ryan did he sanding on this one, did a great job but was very time consuming, he works 8-3 and I bet he had 4 days into sanding. Seems like a lot but he sure got it flat.

thats good to hear, I was just curious because I did a similar sized car and had a easy 40hrs cut and buff. Sure is worth it to see the shine off those flat panels when your done.
 
jeremyb;14517 said:
Usually takes me 30-40 hours to cut/buff one.
I'm glad to hear that. I have taken a lot of flack in the past for spending 2+ hours per panel using 3 steps in sanding and another 3 steps in buffing. In my neck of the woods it is difficult to get paid that kind of money for cut & buff.
 
Oh yea it is. You can't convince anyone of it either. I have guys come up all the time wanting me to cut/buff their car and I hit them with that and they walk away. Oh well. Any less than that isn't worth it just to have a job to do.

It's easier to sell it on an all-over though. Of course then you have those that come in and say "man i just buzz them with 1500 on a da and hit with compound and a foam pad then polish...looks great!!" :rolleyes:

There are so many different levels of "looks great"
 
If I remember correctly on another forum a member had pics of the polishing he did and gave the owner the steps on how to do the sanding process and if I remember right he charged something like 3g's for just polishing while the owner did all the sanding and he felt the bill should've been higher still, does that sound steep to you guys?

I dont do a crazy amount of the extreme finish polishing but when I do I know the work involved is very time consuming for me.
 
Sometimes I will sand the horizontal surfaces flat, then taper off the sanding towards the midpoint of the vertical panels. Many vehicles have side moldings in this area, we just don't bother to buff below that point unless it's a real custom job. Saves a lot of time. Note to people who diss buff jobs that are done that way, people get what they pay for, it is not necessarily bad craftsmanship. I can usually do a job like that in around 10-12 hours, which fits with the average budget.

Sorry for the hijack!
 
crashtech;14590 said:
Sometimes I will sand the horizontal surfaces flat, then taper off the sanding towards the midpoint of the vertical panels. Many vehicles have side moldings in this area, we just don't bother to buff below that point unless it's a real custom job. Saves a lot of time. Note to people who diss buff jobs that are done that way, people get what they pay for, it is not necessarily bad craftsmanship. I can usually do a job like that in around 10-12 hours, which fits with the average budget.

Sorry for the hijack!

I tend to do this with collision jobs.
 
Chad.S;14522 said:
I think universal buffs better after 2 weeks than it does the next day.
I agree, and I think most good quality clears are this way. Some of the cheap clears out there lock up fast and buff good right away-but these are also the clears that end up brittle and scratch easily later on, JMO...
 
And it's all finished up.. At least my part. He still has lots of work to do. Hopefully he brings it back for a test drive when he gets it back together.
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