SPI intercoat in Canada

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C_REX

Seeing as Canada is going green mirroring California's VOC regulations would anyone here be able to give a answer if the intercoat is compliant with the regulations?
 
I would assume its voc compliant.. Barry is ahead of the curve in this area.. As he knows its just a matter of time before everyone will have to match the same voc laws as cali.. If you notice he has 0.0 voc reducers and all his primers are low voc compliant.. then you have the voc compliant HS, Universal and Euro,....

I just looked at the 2010 tech manual and it didnt say what the voc was.. So this I dunno.. Have to wait and see
 
By the skin of its teeth, it just makes it, if you use the 0-voc Urethane reducer.
 
Barryk;4894 said:
By the skin of its teeth, it just makes it, if you use the 0-voc Urethane reducer.
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Will we be able to use the regular reducer in it also?
When the time comes of course.
 
thanks BK and Barry thats awesome because this stuff is kick ass product!
 
would it happen to be compliant with the regular reducer, is that reducer compliant aswell?
 
regular reducer is not compliant in cali... and im sure its the same way in canada.

by taking a product that is over 3.5 voc and adding 0 voc reducer to it DOES NOT make it voc compliant. a few companies tried this and aqmd caught on and shut them down... one was a product i was using and they swore it was legal and i was like r u sure? and used it till i knew it was done for..

each product has to be compliant BEFORE 0 voc products are added or reduced with aka exempt solvents are added to the equation... acetone/oxsol.

so that would make barrys intercoat 3.5 voc or lower?

as it stands.. matrix and alsa's dynatone are the only ones ive seen that have a 3.5 or lower binder/blender/intercoat clear.
 
Should have new labels in next 45-60 days and will be ready to ship to CA and Canada.

Next batch of SPI Red will also be low VOC and California and Canada legal.

So bottom line is if in non VOC area, just used regular urethane reducer and if in a VOC are use a 0-voc reducer.
 
i just realized i was wrong about the voc info i gave on intercoat clear.....

its actually required to be 2.1 voc.. not 3.5....... ANY product called "clear" whether it be topcoat clear... clear... blending clear... clear blender... intercoat clear... doesnt matter if its urethane 1k base.. 2k clear.. enamel.. urethane.. poly... acrylic.. lacquer.. whatever.... if the can says "CLEAR" it MUST be 2.1 voc. So barry u might want to keep that in mind if ur guna sell intercoat clear to cali market.

proof is in the pudding in my area... hok for example... sg100 "intercoat clear" cant get it at the jobber they will tell u all day long non compliant.. sg150 "flake and pearl carrier" can buy it all day long... essentially the same product both are clear basecoats... just about the same voc..

dont believe me? i gurantee that barry with change the label on his cali compliant "intercoat clear"
 
silk
I believe you are right, I talked to a Canada head last week and he said as a specialty coating and stating base blender, 3.5 BUT as I think about it, that makes no sense at all, if they are waterborne. When I get a chance I will read the CA law but have no doubt it needs to be 2:1.
 
its all in the way u label the product. its bs but u gotta play the game.
 
would br nice to know what is all compliant for Canada which most of your voc compliant products are already labelled, I would hate to order the intercoat and get back to the border and not be able to bring it in to Canada.
 
sik, i have heard that before. its pretty ridiculous. just call it neutral basecoat binder. actually now that i think about doesn't the label already just say automotive basecoat on it. i don't think it says intercoat clear.....does it?
 
Since we are talking Canada can someone provide me with the name of the dealer, I lost their info in a computer crash
 
C_REX;4949 said:
would br nice to know what is all compliant for Canada which most of your voc compliant products are already labeled, I would hate to order the intercoat and get back to the border and not be able to bring it in to Canada.
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ALL the primers are legal and labeled.
2100, 4100 and 5100 clears are legal and labeled.
0-voc reducers are legal.
600 adhesion promoter is legal.
900 is legal.
Waterborne reducer and 710 solvent are legal.
 
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