Slick Sand @ tcp

87max

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Holy cow went to order a gallon of slick sand again today from tcp & it went up $40 a gallon! It was $59 six weeks ago now its $99.
 
I hope Evercoat didn't bump up their prices-my local suppliers will be at $140/gallon LOL.
 
After looking around it looks like it averages $100, just surprised me that big of a jump.
 
Knowing how its made and what is in it, this makes no sense to me.
Some items have gone down in price because of oil and a few things have gone up a little but its a wash and I can just about show those facts with every item I make.
 
if you study economics you will find that any product that is successful will increase in cost. evercoat watches sales ans they also watch forums. with the popularity of slicksand on various forums they started slowly inching up the cost. tcpglobal was just a little slow in catching up. major corporations spend a fortune on bean counters and research .
 
Barry;n71857 said:
Knowing how its made and what is in it, this makes no sense to me.
Some items have gone down in price because of oil and a few things have gone up a little but its a wash and I can just about show those facts with every item I make.

When can we expect an SPI POLY??!!
 
I looked at this a few years ago and it would require some different equipment and would only be feasible if I were to make fillers and glazing putties. Don't want no part of that market.
This must be why paint companies all private label their polyesters.
 
I tried some fumed silica in epoxy on a test panel a few weeks ago, adhesion appears to be the same but flexibility my have decreased-I did a bend test on it. I should have sprayed a non silica standard at the same time to compare it to. Jim C has used this in the past when filling in texture on plastic I believe. It would be a nice option on some stuff if it works good, may even be more viable with nonmodified epoxy under and over it.
 
Barry;n71857 said:
Knowing how its made and what is in it, this makes no sense to me.
Some items have gone down in price because of oil and a few things have gone up a little but its a wash and I can just about show those facts with every item I make.
Well your ethics are certainly not something I would question, If a company needs to charge more so be it I was just shocked at the jump but it seems logical that tcp was actually giving a deal so I should be glad I got one at that price lol.
 
the 57 vette i did was rode hard and put up wet , been worked over by pebo an ebo after jimmy bob billy got done with it. i used nothing but epoxy. takes a little more work and some more time but it does work.
 
i have a friend that uses the clausen rust defender . but it is the same price. looks like any of the quality poly high builds are 100 a gal .
 
I've used rust defender in the past and it's good stuff, I plan to try Clausen's Sandie on one of my next projects. The Rust Defender and their All-u-need primer is advertized to self etch?, I bet the Sandie doesn't have that self etch quality which is just fine with me since I apply it over epoxy anyway. What ingredient would allow it to self etch?
 
Bob Hollinshead;n71876 said:
I've used rust defender in the past and it's good stuff, I plan to try Clausen's Sandie on one of my next projects. The Rust Defender and their All-u-need primer is advertized to self etch?, I bet the Sandie doesn't have that self etch quality which is just fine with me since I apply it over epoxy anyway. What ingredient would allow it to self etch?

It has zinc phosphate Bob, check the third paragraph of the handling instructions, although its not listed in the msds. SPI epoxy also has zinc phosphate http://www.clausenautobody.com/library_page.php
 
chevman;n71888 said:
It has zinc phosphate Bob, check the third paragraph of the handling instructions, although its not listed in the msds. SPI epoxy also has zinc phosphate http://www.clausenautobody.com/library_page.php

I read the info you referred to and I see no mention of zinc phosphate. What did I miss?

I do see where it states -

"Unlike 2K Primer, SANDY is a 100% pure high build polyester primer that will cure in 45 minutes at 78 degrees. Major paint companies require two hours of cure time for their priming systems. Unlike 2K Primers it is recommended to be sprayed over bare medal "This product contains 86% solids, therefore it will cover 80 grit sand scratches easily. All surfaces must be sanded and cleaned. Do not use solvents to prepare the surfaces. This product may be used over etching primers, epoxy primers, old finishes and body fillers. SANDY should not be sprayed on bare medal. "

It appears Clausen can't decide how to apply their product.

I would test it out if I had a spare Olympic Medal ,LOL< jk>
 
Senile Old Fart;n71901 said:
I read the info you referred to and I see no mention of zinc phosphate. What did I miss?

I do see where it states -

"Unlike 2K Primer, SANDY is a 100% pure high build polyester primer that will cure in 45 minutes at 78 degrees. Major paint companies require two hours of cure time for their priming systems. Unlike 2K Primers it is recommended to be sprayed over bare medal "This product contains 86% solids, therefore it will cover 80 grit sand scratches easily. All surfaces must be sanded and cleaned. Do not use solvents to prepare the surfaces. This product may be used over etching primers, epoxy primers, old finishes and body fillers. SANDY should not be sprayed on bare medal. "

It appears Clausen can't decide how to apply their product.

I would test it out if I had a spare Olympic Medal ,LOL< jk>

I just reread this topic and I believe I misunderstood your referral.
I just looked at the All U Need primer sheet and it does state it had a zinc phosphate additive.

Sorry for misunderstanding your post.
 
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