Raymond_B
Hobbyist
The trusting part of me hopes we did not, the non-trusting part of me thinks it might have been his videoI hope we didn't scare the OP off.
The trusting part of me hopes we did not, the non-trusting part of me thinks it might have been his videoI hope we didn't scare the OP off.
I never thought of that; you may be rightThe trusting part of me hopes we did not; the non-trusting part of me thinks it might have been his video
You just showed your age!!After much thought I'll offer my opinion.
Some of the questions he asks any person trying to learn would ask if they are wanting to do the best longest lasting paint job they can.
If the epoxy is the same brand as the body filler then I can understand it. Years ago I used that brand of epoxy but was always looking for something better. If memory is correct it was a little difficult to sand and sprayed grainy.Then I found SPI epoxy and have not used anything but SPI since.
When in the late 80s and early 90s one of the majors came out with their epoxy, one of the selling points was that you can put filler over it.
That was 30 YEARS AGO.
Then the fad hit where everyone was doing body color on anything chrome. Bumpers, door handles etc. They were using this new on the market epoxy as a primer on the Chrome. So epoxy before filler has been around for a long time. Nothing new. SPI epoxy is the only primer I use. Nothing better. I do mainly older stuff and ALWAYS put epoxy on properly prepared bare metal first. Period. Never had an issue with it.
I hope I've covered everything.
Chris I bet if you made a channel it would take off. You are very knowledgeable with lots of real world experience. I bet u could make 500 a month extra income by getting paid to share it!Stop watching YouTube videos and start reading threads here on the Forum
First that test is not a proper comparison to applying filler over metal or epoxy on the panel of a vehicle. Second what type of epoxy primer? Not all epoxy primers are the same. If applying filler over bare metal was better do you think every OEM Manufacturer would require filler applied over epoxy to maintain the corrosion warranty?
If you want to watch a video go to YouTube and search "epoxy torture test".
When you apply filler over bare metal, what happens is the metal condensates because of the heat from the catalytic reaction that occurs when filler hardens. Then if it sits for any length of time bare or even with urethane primer over, it absorbs moisture from the air(humidity). Even in Socal.
As much as he knows there would be detractors. I have learned a lot not only from Chris but from this forum . This is actually the only paint forum I am a member of.Chris I bet if you made a channel it would take off. You are very knowledgeable with lots of real world experience. I bet u could make 500 a month extra income by getting paid to share it!
Thanks for the vote of confidence and the kind words.Chris I bet if you made a channel it would take off. You are very knowledgeable with lots of real world experience. I bet u could make 500 a month extra income by getting paid to share it!
I second the idea. I could ask my son to edit and church up the videos then post them. I, unfortunately, would have little else to contribute.We could have an SPI channel and bounce back and forth between our shops with good info.
That episode was on the other night. Back from the dead was title of it. It was towards the end of the show before they started digging into it.I saw a recent episode where they restarted a project that sat in primer for several years. They found rust under the filler applied to bare metal. Was surprised how bad it looked.
Don