Grounding for dust control

Dean Jenkins

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I've seen @Barry and a few others mention grounding the vehicle, in various posts, as one of the steps in controlling dust while painting.

Thought I would give it a try, and it made a big difference. Wow!

It makes sense as air flowing over a panel can generate static electricity, which then attracts any dust in the air.
Grounding the vehicle eliminates the static.

But, to work, it has to be a "true ground."

I've seen some folks, on other groups, say they loop a chain over the axle and let it sit on the floor, to ground the vehicle.
Not to be mean, but that is somewhat comical. The axle housing in nearly every situation (when you are painting the body) is going to have some type of coating, paint or powdercoat, etc. so it will not conduct electricity. And most shop floors are concrete, which is more of an insulator to electricity than a conductor.

For this to work, a connection to a real ground needs to be made to bare metal on the car.

If the electrical system in your shop was done to code, then you've got a perfect ground in every outlet in the shop.

Here is what I did:

Took an old extension cord (it must be a 3-prong, with a ground wire), cut back the outer sheathing, cut the white and black wires back about 1 1/2".

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I taped both ends of the black and white wires with electrical tape, and then taped the whole thing up. No way this can shock anyone.

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I then attached an alligator clip, on the other end, to the green ground wire.

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Then it is just a matter of finding a suitable place on the car to connect the alligator clip to.
It must be bare metal, and that bare metal must have a conductive connection to the frame or body.
A screw or bolt, that is not coated, and the threads go through the frame or sheet metal, is ideal.
I connected it to a screw on the frame that was for a brake line clamp. I also went the extra step to make sure frame and body were electrically connected. Since the body mounts on rubber spacers, and everything was epoxied before I assembled it, I wasn't sure that there was continuity between the body and frame, but there was, probably from the bolts holding the inner fenders to the frame. And of course all the body panels are bolted together, so they have continuity.

Then I plugged the cord into the outlet. Car grounded!

And as I said at the start, it made a huge difference. Least amount of trash I've ever had, in fact as far as I could see with a quick look last night, it was zero.

Hope that helps someone.
 

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I’m going to give it a try but it could get complicated when you’re panel painting.

Don
Yeah, I thought about that. I've got my tailgate to paint and I'll do it off the vehicle.
And of course on panels being painted there is no bare metal.
I'm thinking I will just put an uncoated bolt in one of the hinge holes and clip to that and try to keep the cord out of the way.

On a panel without any threaded holes, I would consider drilling a small hole in an out of the way place (a hidden brace or something), putting a sheet metal screw in it for the ground. After paint is done, remove the screw and dab some epoxy in the hole with a little artist brush.

I really was impressed with the difference it made, so for me it will be worth the trouble.
 
Yeah, I thought about that. I've got my tailgate to paint and I'll do it off the vehicle.
And of course on panels being painted there is no bare metal.
I'm thinking I will just put an uncoated bolt in one of the hinge holes and clip to that and try to keep the cord out of the way.

On a panel without any threaded holes, I would consider drilling a small hole in an out of the way place (a hidden brace or something), putting a sheet metal screw in it for the ground. After paint is done, remove the screw and dab some epoxy in the hole with a little artist brush.

I really was impressed with the difference it made, so for me it will be worth the trouble.
I sometimes paint 8 separate panels at the same time so I was thinking some kind of daisy chained ground cable is needed.

Don
 
I sometimes paint 8 separate panels at the same time so I was thinking some kind of daisy chained ground cable is needed.

Don
Yeah. Cheap, thin gauge wire is fine. Static has voltage but barely any current.
Could end up being a big hassle with that many panels and something to trip on while spraying :oops:
If you try it, It would be great to hear what you think and how it went.
 
That's a pretty slick set-up, Dean.

Well done, thanks for sharing!!!
 
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I sprayed a 65 vette in my friends spray booth at his autobody shop. Brand new booth, I was hopping for minimal trach. Wrong. I sprayed the first coat of black base and holy cow, trash city. I was like WTF. I called him about it as it was a Saturday and he was at his kid's game. I told him the problem and he asked if I used the red gun on the wall to blow it off first. I said what red gun. He said the one I spent 7#%!@ing hundred dollars on. The ionizing gun. That did the trick, no more trash.
It may have been this one. Wireless. https://www.bossauto.com/en/tools/ionizer-pro-gun/products
 
This is what we use at and I at home.
They come in 1ft to 15ft.
Shop online, as a lot of companies make these.
Pictures were for reference only so you knew what they looked like.
 

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We used 8' grounding rods in / on all the booths wet and dry at the plant I worked in. Just have to make sure the straps connections are kept clean. Couple of the wet booths we had grounding wires / straps attached to the guns, pumps, drums and the part conveyors to help keep it neutral. Dry booths we ran electrostatic so the monorails were grounded. All the grounding for the parts were done through the t-bars and hang hooks. I put a grounding rod in the corner of the shop and ran straps to the car and scoffold when I painted. Still got a few bugs but not much else.

John
 
Grounding is Important. Especially in Winter. Static is always worse then especially with plastic sheeting booths. Your rub your butt up against It and your Charged.....
You would be safer using a Replacement male plug with just the Single Ground Wire connected in it if you plan on doing this,which I don't recommend, AND,
Get the plugin Tester with the 3 lights to be SURE you System,Receptacle is Correctly configured if you intend on doing this.
Much Safer to just drill the Floor and install a Metal concrete anchor.
It's called an Earth Ground for a reason. Goes back to the the Earth.
You can always use a Continuity Meter between your attachment point and the Grounding point to confirm connection.
Electricity is not something to Play With. IT WILL KILL YOU if you Disrespect It. So be Careful PLEASE.
Now,go paint something
 
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