Dave's epoxy shop rules (please amend anyone)

I remember when that so called "scientific test" was first posted. I'll say the same thing that I said back then. One major problem with that "test" is that he was simply testing to see if he could make it "fail". I am a firm believer that you can make those types of tests give whatever results you want.

The best way to test a product like that is "unplanned". I tested this proceedure several years ago, when I first heard of it. I had applied epoxy to a piece of metal and applied the "bondo" on that. It was several weeks later when I remembered the test panel. When I tried to remove the "bondo", I destroyed the panel. I have since been using that proceedure on my projects.

I do not apply filler on "wet epoxy". It will sit atleast overnight before I apply filler. Since I do this on major projects, there is no rush to get them done. That means that there is plenty of time for all to fully cure. I know of no failures on any of my projects.

As an added insurance policy, it may be best to warn everyone not to beat their cars against the corners of their work bench. LOL

Aaron
 
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As an added insurance policy, it may be best to warn everyone not to beat their cars against the corners of their work bench. LOL

Aaron

Do you mean like this the first time you take your wife out to eat in the car for the first official road trip.
More then a total epoxy failure for sure.
 
Another thing is that I don't put filler on epoxy to get better adhesion. It's not about adhesion, though I have no doubt long term testing will show excellent adhesion that is at least the equal of filler on steel. But:

IT'S ABOUT CORROSION PROTECTION, SERGE.

Next time paint both samples, put some chips in the paint, spray them with hot brine for 500 hours, and see what happens...
 
exactly...filler over epoxy IS NOT only about adhesion. along with corrosion protection, its protection against ANY airborne contaminents or solvent contaminents also. It is a SEALED barrier over your clean bare metal FOREVER. We will all be dead and long gone before it breaks down. You just cant convince some people. Especially when they start quoting bondo manufacturers tech sheets saying to apply the filler over metal. Once they pull that card, i just shut up and move on. they dont get it, and wont get it.
 
look , i live down the road from a motel 6 and watch spike tv so i am an expert. i've painted 3 cars and can tell you duplicolor is just as good as urethane. it's charged with positive nuclear ions and can repel hail stones and grenade launchers. on show cars i step up to omni . it's the same stuff as ppg cause it comes out of the same cans. after stripping with ospho i wipe it down with atf to stop rust . you know it all pro's just dont want to try it cause you think you know everything....................... :D
 
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shine;4022 said:
look , i live down the road from a motel 6 and watch spike tv so i am an expert. i've painted 3 cars and can tell you duplicolor is just as good as urethane. it's charged with positive nuclear ions and can repel hail stones and grenade launchers. on show cars i step up to omni . it's the same stuff as ppg cause it comes out of the same cans. after stripping with ospho i wipe it down with atf to stop rust . you know it all pro's just dont want to try it cause you think you know everything....................... :D
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Ah ha, I knew there was some secrets you were holding close to the vest. ROTFL
Great post made me laugh out loud. I have heard every one of those "secrets of the trade" except living near a Motel 6. LOL
 
shine;4022 said:
look , i live down the road from a motel 6 and watch spike tv so i am an expert. i've painted 3 cars and can tell you duplicolor is just as good as urethane. it's charged with positive nuclear ions and can repel hail stones and grenade launchers. on show cars i step up to omni . it's the same stuff as ppg cause it comes out of the same cans. after stripping with ospho i wipe it down with atf to stop rust . you know it all pro's just dont want to try it cause you think you know everything....................... :D
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I thought you were supposed to spray with wd40 or armorall for rust protection????
 
nope. right on 2 guys garage the morons told the viewing public to wipe down bare metal with atf to preserve it. while taping bj auctions it started early and caught it. i dont care if it's in the painters bible i aint wiping atf on bare steel. nor will i watch 2 guys garage .
 
shine;4030 said:
nope. right on 2 guys garage the morons told the viewing public to wipe down bare metal with atf to preserve it. while taping bj auctions it started early and caught it. i dont care if it's in the painters bible i aint wiping atf on bare steel. nor will i watch 2 guys garage .
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Are you sure you didn't misunderstand because you might be afflicted with our dangerous old fart syndrome????...surely nobody would recommend a wipedown with atf...or does atf still mean transmission fluid?
 
shine;4032 said:
no, got it on tape . craziest thing i ever heard . and yes it was trans fluid.
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I can testify to the truth of it as I saw some guys discussing it on the net and couldn't believe what I was hearing.
 
Sheesh. I saw that show once. I thought it was Two Gays Garage and they were basting something with ATF. The few minutes I watched creeped me out -- nothing against gays, I just never saw them interested in cars before.
 
i blast a car , wash it, epoxy it. in several days i go from pasture art to smooth epoxy. no sweaty hand prints, no heavy dew stains , no having to sand it again before shooting it. it just dont get no better. i've blasted cars for people that by the time they get around to it the thing is covered in hand prints ( both large and small ) sweat marks you name it. epoxy first just ends all this.
 
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