black epoxy ftw! !!!!
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Polish Painter
Looks very nice, Did you spray 4 coats of clear ? Brand ? what kind of block did you use for the 800 and 1000 grit ?
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DiD you da any of your wet sanding 1500? Thanks . Once again very nice !!!!!
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DiD you da any of your wet sanding 1500? Thanks . Once again very nice !!!!!
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Polish Painter
Is there a noticeable difference starting with 800 vs 1000 ? Are the 800 grit scratches difficult to remove ? I just wonder how much clear is removed by using 800 grit and 1000 grit . I have never sanded with 800 grit , maybe I should. I usually start with 1000.
A friend of mine has been painting mostly corvette for 25 years . He owns a restoration shop. Does beautiful work. I spoke with him last week and he says he starts with 1500 grit by hand , does not use a block , stick etc.
I wonder if his jobs still have urethane wave in them and he gets all the peel gone. I have not seen his work since I have learned and become more experienced. Possible he sprays well enough to start with 1500 ??
A friend of mine has been painting mostly corvette for 25 years . He owns a restoration shop. Does beautiful work. I spoke with him last week and he says he starts with 1500 grit by hand , does not use a block , stick etc.
I wonder if his jobs still have urethane wave in them and he gets all the peel gone. I have not seen his work since I have learned and become more experienced. Possible he sprays well enough to start with 1500 ??
I can get the same results with 800 and 1000. The 800 just cuts faster.
I personally cannot see how anyone would get a clear coat cut straight without the use of a block or stick of some sort. there are so many pressure points in your hand.
Does he have wood blocks for hands? Maybe thats how he does it! kidding!
I personally cannot see how anyone would get a clear coat cut straight without the use of a block or stick of some sort. there are so many pressure points in your hand.
Does he have wood blocks for hands? Maybe thats how he does it! kidding!
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Bob Hollinshead
Some are starting with 400 which is aggressive enough that a hard block is less of a requirement. 800 with a plexiglass block cuts flat for me, finer grits will also work with the plexiglass block but sanding time increases a lot.
orangejuiced86;18277 said:
That is a really nice looking paint job. I beat myself up over stuff like that all the time too. Probably a tenth of a percent of the people who see my car will notice the thane wave around the hard to sand areas, but to me the thane wave may as well be accented with orange pin stripes.
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jeff
ya, the satin in that stuff is killer.. sprays real easy..i was looking for a flat black..if you had let it flash overnite... then shoot another coat with 30% fast reducer... it goes smooth flat black... wow... oh, nice job
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Senile Old Fart
Looks nice!
I hope you didnt charge the owner so much that he doesnt have any money left to buy some rear tires that aren't bald, ROFLOL.
I hope you didnt charge the owner so much that he doesnt have any money left to buy some rear tires that aren't bald, ROFLOL.
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Warren
beautiful car.
I'm building a protour 71 Monte Carlo with a similar LS/single turbo arrangement. (what size is on that one 76mm'ish)
I was going to hot rod black it....but that job you did gives serious pause for thought to go full gloss black.
I'm building a protour 71 Monte Carlo with a similar LS/single turbo arrangement. (what size is on that one 76mm'ish)
I was going to hot rod black it....but that job you did gives serious pause for thought to go full gloss black.
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tonysturbo
Looks great! I'm in the same boat about having kids and working a full time job all the time, I feel burned out doing all these overall, I really want to work on my own car. The work just keeps coming and i keep raising my price, but they keep coming..lol. Here is one I'm finishing up also. Can't wait to finish this one. It's going back to MN May 15th. Then I'm going to take a break for a bit and spend some time with my family and work on my car and house. By the way...i hate black also...it shows every damn thing.orangejuiced86;18277 said:
Take care.
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Senile Old Fart
Simple solution for your dilemma, charge too much and turn out crap work - ROFLOL!
I have found that others do not see the defects that I know are there. We hobbyist painters or the Pros look at it different than the other 99%do.
Be proud of the fact that others see your work in the way they do.
It just shows how well you are doing it.
If you want to take a break from it, tell the next guy that you can't get to it until xx day.
If he says ok, it is a double win, you got a job lined up with some $$ to come in and you have the time off now to work on your own stuff.
But more importantly then having time to work on your own stuff is spending more time with your family.
I spent a LOT of time with my daughter, we snow skiied, camped,sailboarded, motorcycled, attended mc races, car shows, we sewed in the kitchen, we cooked , etc.
She grew up, moved out and got married.
She lives out of state and now I only get to see her once or twice a year. I miss her every day and wish I had found more time for her when she was here, but I had to work to pay to play! She truly was/is my best friend along with being my daughter.
Shine, I told her she ever has an immediate problem she needs help with to call you
I have found that others do not see the defects that I know are there. We hobbyist painters or the Pros look at it different than the other 99%do.
Be proud of the fact that others see your work in the way they do.
It just shows how well you are doing it.
If you want to take a break from it, tell the next guy that you can't get to it until xx day.
If he says ok, it is a double win, you got a job lined up with some $$ to come in and you have the time off now to work on your own stuff.
But more importantly then having time to work on your own stuff is spending more time with your family.
I spent a LOT of time with my daughter, we snow skiied, camped,sailboarded, motorcycled, attended mc races, car shows, we sewed in the kitchen, we cooked , etc.
She grew up, moved out and got married.
She lives out of state and now I only get to see her once or twice a year. I miss her every day and wish I had found more time for her when she was here, but I had to work to pay to play! She truly was/is my best friend along with being my daughter.
Shine, I told her she ever has an immediate problem she needs help with to call you
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tonysturbo
Good advise. Yeah with 4 girls I'm pretty busy for sure. And your right, most of my customers don't see what i see. It's just bugs me when i find something that i wish i could have done better. I'm just can't figure out why some people will pay more for a paint job then the car is worth. It's nice to know my work is good enough to get a fair price for an overall, and people are willing to drive 600-800 miles to bring me there car and trust that they will get what they are paying for. It usually takes me 4 months to do a strip and paint, I'm only able to work on the car two days a week because i watch my girls most of the week and i work the weekend shift. As i have been getting older I've realized that spending time with my family is very important. But i do like the extra $$$. It's just a balancing act that i need to do in order to do what we do i guess. I have done what you said for my next paint job and they didn't hesitate one bit that i told them i wouldn't be able to take it until September. Sometimes i think about opening my own shop again and doing it for a living....but then i think i really don't want the headaches again and all the time you have to spend in order to make it work, not to mention spending all my time away from my family.I look at some of the work that others are doing on here and i sometimes feel like my work is not anywhere near as good as there's. I'm never 100% happy with it, and i all ways wish i could have done it better, but everyone that i have delivered so far has loved it. Thanks thoSenile Old Fart;19515 said:Simple solution for your dilemma, charge too much and turn out crap work - ROFLOL!
I have found that others do not see the defects that I know are there. We hobbyist painters or the Pros look at it different than the other 99%do.
Be proud of the fact that others see your work in the way they do.
It just shows how well you are doing it.
If you want to take a break from it, tell the next guy that you can't get to it until xx day.
If he says ok, it is a double win, you got a job lined up with some $$ to come in and you have the time off now to work on your own stuff.
But more importantly then having time to work on your own stuff is spending more time with your family.
I spent a LOT of time with my daughter, we snow skiied, camped,sailboarded, motorcycled, attended mc races, car shows, we sewed in the kitchen, we cooked , etc.
She grew up, moved out and got married.
She lives out of state and now I only get to see her once or twice a year. I miss her every day and wish I had found more time for her when she was here, but I had to work to pay to play! She truly was/is my best friend along with being my daughter.
Shine, I told her she ever has an immediate problem she needs help with to call you
I have 3 little boys. I am nazi dad when it comes to bed time for them. They are in their beds at 8pm every night. I usually try to get out inthe garage from 8:15-11pm when I have work to do. I try my best to not be in the garage when they are awake.
Tony, that 2nd gn you just did looks killer, along with the first one you posted!
I am doing one more complete and then I am done with big projects for a little while.
Tony, that 2nd gn you just did looks killer, along with the first one you posted!
I am doing one more complete and then I am done with big projects for a little while.
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cyclopsblown34
Fap fap fap fap. That paint work is gorgeous. I've never been brave enough to jump on one with 800 grit, might just have to try it on the 68 Camaro I'm working on now. We finally got the panels(all GM accumulate over the last 25 years) almost close enough to please us. Might be in paint next week, he was determined to use this DuPont Chroma premium clear in spite of the paint job that sold him on my work being SPI universal clear over Spies base.
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Rustbuster77
wow, 2 fantastic GN's. Great work guys! I'm slowly getting the courage and have to clean the garage out enough to start on my projects. have 3 lined up...
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Desertdave
orangejuiced86;17756 said:
Do you ever have a problem with mis-matched panels after spraying them? I would think you would have to have your pace down pat as well as your overlap to get consistantly equal panels. I want to paint my Pony in panels as well but am afraid of them not matching.
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kenseth17
So true. Just looked at a 68 mustang with eleanor body panels (but painted black and silver) for fiberglass hood repair.. Thinking to myself, I would be beating myself up and probably be redoing a lot of bodywork for free with the amount of ripples and flaws in it, enough a long time bodyman/painter would be picking apart at the car show. But the guy seemed happy. Kind of neat car, but bodywork left something to be desired, and really didn't want to say nothing about someones pride and joy. And he has some color left over for it, and come to find out its Kirker ss under the clear, arghh. Means I'll get to blend with a slow drying converted base and a system I haven't used before.Senile Old Fart;19515 said:Simple solution for your dilemma, charge too much and turn out crap work - ROFLOL!
I have found that others do not see the defects that I know are there. We hobbyist painters or the Pros look at it different than the other 99%do.
Be proud of the fact that others see your work in the way they do.
It just shows how well you are doing it.
If you want to take a break from it, tell the next guy that you can't get to it until xx day.
If he says ok, it is a double win, you got a job lined up with some $$ to come in and you have the time off now to work on your own stuff.
But more importantly then having time to work on your own stuff is spending more time with your family.
I spent a LOT of time with my daughter, we snow skiied, camped,sailboarded, motorcycled, attended mc races, car shows, we sewed in the kitchen, we cooked , etc.
She grew up, moved out and got married.
She lives out of state and now I only get to see her once or twice a year. I miss her every day and wish I had found more time for her when she was here, but I had to work to pay to play! She truly was/is my best friend along with being my daughter.
Shine, I told her she ever has an immediate problem she needs help with to call you
See it all the time, 90 percent of the population don't know what to look for, and if it looks shiny and nothing jumps out at them looking straight on, it looks good to them. Or they would realize how many brand new cars have sheety paint jobs. Makes you wonder sometimes why you put hour upon hour getting things straight and flat, but you'd just be miserable letting something go that ain't up to your standards of quality even if most people are going to think it looks great. And even though flawless is pretty much impossible, those few little flaws are going to bug the sheet out of you, and you will know exactly where they all are.
Sounds like I'm not alone with your own stuff sitting unfinished. Have no real project vehicle, but Drive a rusted out gas guzzling ugly truck, and my car is still sitting for what is forever now, for the engine and replacement tranny to be put back in (Least I did get some patching, welding done underneath awhile back, the subframe sure couldn't have been holding in there by all that much).
Too easy to be lazy and let that sit, and decide not to get out and work on it. and I took a two year break from working on other peoples stuff, while looking for a house, moving, and getting settled in.
The car will be pushed outside soon, so I can help my brother this weekend and fix the rockers on his truck. Then I will probably be doing that mustang the following weekend. Have put hour upon hour making others stuff look good, and have been up all night and well into the morning trying to finish a car of someone elses. Yet I have a long list of my own stuff to do, and plenty of work that could be done on the house, but it yet again is put off to a later date. And I still sure ain't anywhere near rich after all the times I've worked on other peoples stuff.