Will changing an electric motor fan rotation to counterclockwise make the fan......

MJM

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........pull air (exhaust) ?

I'm no electrician but, I believe I have an AC electric motor on this fan. Was going to pull the motor and take it to an electrician and have them rewire the motor to spin counterclockwise if that will work to pull air? This fan is rated at 10,500cfm.

Thoughts?

Here's the fan in question.
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Fan motor specs
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Right now the fan blade spins clockwise pushing air. I want the fan to pull air. I thought having reverse rotation ( spinning the fan blade counterclockwise) would pull air.

I'll try Dean's idea first seeing as that costs nothing but, I don't think that's going to pull enough cfm.
 
I'll try Dean's idea first seeing as that costs nothing but, I don't think that's going to pull enough cfm.
I'm no physics major, but I think fan blades are designed for one direction (unless they are bidirectional) with a leading edge and trailing edge.
Whether you reverse the motor or the blade you'll be leading with the trailing edge and lose CFM.
One is just easier than the other.
If it is possible to turn the box around, that would be best.
 
I'm no physics major, but I think fan blades are designed for one direction (unless they are bidirectional) with a leading edge and trailing edge.
Whether you reverse the motor or the blade you'll be leading with the trailing edge and lose CFM.
One is just easier than the other.
If it is possible to turn the box around, that would be best.

I'm obviously very confused. If I turn the fan around, I'll be pushing air into the booth. I was also unaware that reverse rotation of the spinning fan blade would reduce cfm. A bathroom exhaust fan pulls air,how does it do it?
 
I think you got a little backwards on this Sir. So you want to pull air out of your paint booth/area? Remember one side might be pushing air but the other side is pulling it. Just place the fan so that the side that's pulling is facing the area you want to paint. Whether that's using the box it's in or if you will fashion up something else. If the fan is pushing air on the one side, it's pulling it on the other side of the blade.:)
 
I think you got a little backwards on this Sir. So you want to pull air out of your paint booth/area? Remember one side might be pushing air but the other side is pulling it. Just place the fan so that the side that's pulling is facing the area you want to paint. Whether that's using the box it's in or if you will fashion up something else. If the fan is pushing air on the one side, it's pulling it on the other side of the blade.:)

The booth will be 12' wide x 20' long x 7' tall. The back wall of the booth will have one or two 20" box fans drawing in fresh air and blowing towards the front of the booth for the big box fan shown to pull it out.

I'll set it up as you outlined. I think I will set up the paint booth and fill it with a smoke /fog machine and see how long it takes to clear out. I don't want to be in a position when spraying clear that it becomes unbearable to see from a cloud of over spray.
 
The booth will be 12' wide x 20' long x 7' tall. The back wall of the booth will have one or two 20" box fans drawing in fresh air and blowing towards the front of the booth for the big box fan shown to pull it out.

I'll set it up as you outlined. I think I will set up the paint booth and fill it with a smoke /fog machine and see how long it takes to clear out. I don't want to be in a position when spraying clear that it becomes unbearable to see from a cloud of over spray.
I used a similar whole house attic fan in my DIY booth in my last shop. It could not prevent the clear overspray from getting pretty thick. It was useable but nothing like my current commercial booth fan.

I think I did four completes in that booth.

Don
 
The way I see it, that fan and box are meant to blow in one direction and the way its sitting in the pic is blow towards your compressor. Is there a way to put it under a garage door and put plywood on both sides of the fan to like mimic a wall installation, crack open a window, and see how it empties out the garage ?
 
I have a similar sized shop. I have an explosion proof wall mounted fan. It clears the area in less than 5 min. I open a window and put a furnace filter in it. The dirt is nearly nil.
 
A fan has to push everything it pulls. Looking at the fan as it sits in the pic above, the blade would be turning counterclockwise to draw air across the motor and blow it out the opposite side.

FWIW, standard terminology for motor rotation is based on viewing the motor from the end opposite the shaft. The current rotation is counterclockwise.

If you reverse the motor and leave everything else as is, the fan will handle very little air at all. With few exceptions, fan blades are designed for rotation in one direction only.

To pull air out of the room, simply set the fan in the opening with the motor toward the room and turn it on.

Assuming you have no obstructions on the outlet of the fan, it should handle whatever it can draw into the room. That cfm is determined by the specific fan curve for that fan and its ability to develop static pressure. Most propeller fans are for use in free air and won't develop much static. A spray booth fan is designed to develop static pressure so that it can overcome flow resistance in ductwork. If you look at a picture of a booth fan, it will look entirely different than the fan you have. The fact that your fan has a 1/2 hp motor indicates it won't develop much static pressure. In comparison, a true spray booth fan that size would typically have a motor in the 5hp to 7.5 hp range. In plain terms, a fan that won't develop significant static pressure will be affected by any restriction on either the entering or leaving side in a manner that causes the cfm it will handle to drop off very quickly.

If you plan to have a pair of 20" box fans as the only openings to draw air into the room, you will likely have problems. A 20" box fan will handle 1800 to 2000 cfm. So two of them will handle less than half the capacity of the big fan. Therefore the two box fans will become an obstruction to air flow rather than an enhancement. The likely result is a couple streams of air traveling from the box fans directly to the big fan rather than uniform flow across the cross section of the booth which is what's needed to efficiently clear overspray.

You'd be better off to construct a filter bank at the entering end of the booth rather than trying to push air in with box fans. Typical sticky filters for spray booth inlet use are rated for 100 cfm face velocity. So, to allow 10,000 cfm to enter the booth, you'd need 10,000/100= 100 sq ft of filter area. Yeah, its a lot of filters and a lot of area, but that's what's proven to produce somewhat uniform flow across the booth's cross section. The 100 sq ft inlet area will minimize pressure drop thru the filters and will allow your big fan to actually handle something near its free air rating. My halfway educated guess would be that the big fan will handle twice the air it would handle if using the box fans as the inlet.
 
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