Spraying a satin job?

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dukess396

A coworker asked me to paint his truck. The trick is, he wants it satin black, with gloss red stripes. I'm not even sure where to begin. He wants it scuffed and sprayed, not stripped. Its got the oem clear finish on it (Dakota R/T) but original clear on the roof is shot. I can't tell if its peeling or just faded, but looks bad. At first, I just thought I'd shoot it with some black epoxy and call it good, but now he's wanting the stripes, and level with the whole finish. So that brings me to flattening agent, and all that goes with it. He hit me up for the job because he loved the job I did on my car. I was planning on taking on a winter project to make a buck,now I'm hoping I didn't bite off too much. Tell me what you guys think.
 
Shoot it all at the same time or you'll most likely end up with a difference in sheen. You could do the whole job traditionally then sand and scuff it so the striped are under the clear and flush then shoot two more coats of clear with flattener in it. Play around with the flattener mix ratio on test panels to make sure it's what you're after. Then mask to protect the black and buff out the stripes.
 
The biggest problem with a scuff and shoot in this case is that variations in the substrate will cause variations in gloss. Some kind of sealer must be laid down on the whole job, like epoxy, then the flattened material should be shot much later, after the solvent has gotten out of the sealer. Uniformity of the substrate will help uniformity of the topcoat, this is true for all finishes, but especially flattened ones.
 
i wouldnt do a paint job like that over failing clear and base unless the truck was stripped, i think thats crazy. especially satin and if youve never done one like that before. over good oem clear, yes. people want these nice custom paint jobs but dont want to pay for what it really takes to do it right. am i wrong guys?
 
Yeah, it's extremely likely that the degraded finish will cause noticeable problems in the new paint. But I get tired of saying that.
 
crashtech;12693 said:
Yeah, it's extremely likely that the degraded finish will cause noticeable problems in the new paint. But I get tired of saying that.
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I figured that. Already suggested I'd rather take it all the way down. He thinks its no big deal, and that I could just mask out the stripes over his existing red, and be done. Funny. I'm gonna see how this pans out. I'm not doing some rattle can looking crap. If he doesn't want to spend a buck on a quart of red paint, then I'm not going to do it. I'm not sure where his expectatons are. I guess the reality is, anyone can do a shitty job, so if thats what he wants, I'll let him do it himself.
 
good judgement that why youre the painter and hes not. i continually get asked to paint over "something already mystery primered by joe blow a while back". it just doesnt work that way.
 
He decided he just wants it sprayed red again. After some discussions on how much base costs, he chose SPI red, lol. Works for me.
 
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