Sata 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000 and 5500 rp. What is the difference between them?
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The low numbers are older designs, and the high numbers are newer. For the most part the newer ones are improvements and upgrades to the older technology, but not always. Some of the changes are only for EPA type reasons, such as transfer efficiency and cap pressure limitations. The 3000 is regarded by some as the best gun over all, but the newer upgraded ones will use less product once you get the air pressure, tip size, and working speed all dialed in to the product you are shooting. If you are spraying all day every day, then the most efficient one you can get is well worth the money, since the paint is so expensive. If like me, you spray every 3rd weekend at most, then keeping one that you are comfortable with and get good results with is probably the way to go. I still use a Iwata LP400 for just about everything.
One other thought though is that good used guns bring close to their new price on eBay, So if you buy a X5500 for $850 new, and just can't seem to get it to work for you, you can probable still get $700 back out of it and try another. I sell SATA guns and parts, and I still get the most call for 1000 / 2000 / 3000 rebuild kits.
One other thought though is that good used guns bring close to their new price on eBay, So if you buy a X5500 for $850 new, and just can't seem to get it to work for you, you can probable still get $700 back out of it and try another. I sell SATA guns and parts, and I still get the most call for 1000 / 2000 / 3000 rebuild kits.
Chris_Hamilton
Trying to be the best me, I can be
Sata 2000 and the Sata RP were the first SATA guns that were both EPA compliant and sprayed well. If you had a Sata NR 2000/ 2000 HVLP you could still use it to spray base and get top quality results. The first RP was of the same generation of guns and it is an excellent clear gun. The 3000 and 4000 were improvements in ergonomics and in spraying although neither was as popular as 2000 series guns. The 5000 series are excellent guns. Probably the best spraying of all (IMO). The 5000 RP 1.3 is my all time favorite for clear. Just a great gun that will even spray metallic base well too. The x5500 are actually 2 different lines of guns within both the HVLP and RP models. The O nozzle sprays like a conventional Sata. Fast. The I nozzle sprays more like an Iwata. Slower.
Ideally if using Sata's you want to use an HVLP for base. 1.3 tip works for most things. The RP for clear. Again a 1.3 tip is ideal for most clears. The HVLP's don't spray clear well, and the RP's while they will spray base well, will use more base which is a factor these days with the cost of premium basecoats.
Personally I would recommend you go with either the 5000 or x5500 series simply because of the age of the older models, parts support is not always there. The 2000 Sata's AFAIK parts are NLA new. But Sata's are also extremely durable and when taken care of, last for a very long time. I had a 2000 HVLP that I used in my work for 15 years. Rebuilt it one time with a needle nozzle set. Used it almost daily during that time and often multiple times a day. I still have it and it still sprays fine. Not many other guns can make that claim or last that long.
Ideally if using Sata's you want to use an HVLP for base. 1.3 tip works for most things. The RP for clear. Again a 1.3 tip is ideal for most clears. The HVLP's don't spray clear well, and the RP's while they will spray base well, will use more base which is a factor these days with the cost of premium basecoats.
Personally I would recommend you go with either the 5000 or x5500 series simply because of the age of the older models, parts support is not always there. The 2000 Sata's AFAIK parts are NLA new. But Sata's are also extremely durable and when taken care of, last for a very long time. I had a 2000 HVLP that I used in my work for 15 years. Rebuilt it one time with a needle nozzle set. Used it almost daily during that time and often multiple times a day. I still have it and it still sprays fine. Not many other guns can make that claim or last that long.
carerre
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I just started out as an apprentice as a sprayer. The shop I worked in uses lph400 for bases and sata for clear. i like the quick adjustment i can make on the sata 5500. the lph400 atomization feels gentle and feministic while the sata feels strong and masculine. Loved them both. But I lean more on the sata, it feels robust in my hand and also i like to move fast.
Question to you Chris, you mentioned that you used 5000 rp for metallics. at what pressure you are using? just curious.
carerre
New Member
I am leaning towards sata and intended to buy used ones for the time being. Germans made is synonymous with quality. Rebuild parts can be found easily even though they are not cheap, but I can always buy a cheap 2nd hand gun and swap parts. When I ask about a question about sata, the likelyhood of it being answered is quite certain for sure.
Chris_Hamilton
Trying to be the best me, I can be
I don't often as I have a couple of different HVLP Sata's that I use for metallic. I've just used it a few times to see if it would spray metallic nice. It does, and as for air pressure I try to use the minimum required to get it atomizing correctly. Anything more than the min is just wasting material. For me IIRC it was around 28 psi. You'll just have to experiment to find what works for you.
'68 Coronet R/T
Oldtimer
Hmmm, I guess it's a good thing you aren't close by as some of us LPH 400 users might have to slap you around just to show we are not feministic!
If you are in a shop environment and painting a everyday, then the SATA is usually the gun of choice as it puts out a lot of paint, as a larger spray pattern and requires you to move a bit quicker. On the other hand, if you are doing custom painting and restoration work, the LPH400 has been the choice of many for a lot of years. In fact, at one time the LPH400 was the top choice for shooting clear coat.
I started out using a SATA 2000 but later tried the Iwata LPH 400 Silver Cap 1.4 tip. Over time the LPH400 became my problem solver and favorite spray gun for epoxy, base and clear.
carerre
New Member
thankU
carerre
New Member
Hmmm, I guess it's a good thing you aren't close by as some of us LPH 400 users might have to slap you around just to show we are not feministic!
If you are in a shop environment and painting a everyday, then the SATA is usually the gun of choice as it puts out a lot of paint, as a larger spray pattern and requires you to move a bit quicker. On the other hand, if you are doing custom painting and restoration work, the LPH400 has been the choice of many for a lot of years. In fact, at one time the LPH400 was the top choice for shooting clear coat.
I started out using a SATA 2000 but later tried the Iwata LPH 400 Silver Cap 1.4 tip. Over time the LPH400 became my problem solver and favorite spray gun for epoxy, base and clear.
point taken
carerre
New Member
I tried out Sata 1500 B RP SolV for silver metallic just to see how well it sprays and doing cloud control(mottling). it's a real beauty when doing medium wet coat and drop coat due to the even and stable distribution. When I was using it for a pearl coat over the base, I couldnt believe my eyes. The fine droplets is way better than what I would get from the iwata lph400. I agree with you, it certainly uses more materials. I will still use it when I know I have more materials to spare and of course, without my boss knowlege.