Repairing HOK SHIMRIN Razberry II Pearl?

[Jorge M.]

Went into a Custom Shop here in Vancouver to demo a quart of Epoxy primer and they asked my opinion on this HOK stuff. I'll try to describe the damage as good as I can so bear with me. The car in question is a 60 something Firebird that has a 30" in length scratch over the center of the roof, the widest part of the scratch is about 1/32th of an inch, it seems like it went all the way down to the basecoat but couldn't really tell because they hadn't tried to hit the area with 2000 wet sandpaper and shoot some W&G remover to see how it would look.

Anyway, this car has no break from the roof to the quarter panels, and all they want to know if there's a way to 'fix' the scratch, they said it didn't have to be perfect as long as they can sort of hide it make it go away. I didn't have a chance to take pictures of the car in question, I apologize for that.

The car is painted with all HOK stuff, PBC 69 Shimrin Razberry II pearl shot over BC26 White basecoat as the ground color, kinda like a 'fake' candy I take it, obviously three stage job.

This car was painted somewhere else but brought in to this shop to fix mechanical stuff and that scratch on the roof.

Is there a quick and dirty way to sort of fix this or are they screwed and have to do a proper blend job on the whole roof?

What say you, experienced painters in here? JimC, Bob Hollinshead, Chad S. and many others?

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[anotheridiot]

I really would think they would at least have to take to to the body line of the quarterpanel where the shadow line is gonna make the candy and pearl look different if they can blend it. So much with candy and pearls are based on how much is on the car.

Quick and dirty would probably be a vinyl top, they had those back then so it would still be period correct or graphics of some sort.

 

[Jim C]

how and where they blend to is on them and should be treated no different than any other job. the razberry pearl isnt a candy. this a plain old 1 step pearl basecoat. no different than any other solvent basecoat. they should repair it no different than any other job they do. people hear or see hok and get all freaked out. there is nothing special about any of it. for years i was able to mix any of the hok colors right off my diamont mixing rack.

 

[Jorge M.]

how and where they blend to is on them and should be treated no different than any other job. the razberry pearl isnt a candy. this a plain old 1 step pearl basecoat. no different than any other solvent basecoat. they should repair it no different than any other job they do. people hear or see hok and get all freaked out. there is nothing special about any of it. for years i was able to mix any of the hok colors right off my diamont mixing rack.

Thanks Jim. I can see that "freaking out" reaction you mention with the HOK stuff. I was told by the painter it was a 3 stage paint job and I just took his words at face value, shows how much I know lol

From what I understand the PBC 69 base was shot over white, so depending on how many coats they shot that will dictate an exact color match, it seems like that PBC stuff takes quite a few coats to achieve 'full color hiding'. I say that because I could see a bit of streaking on the roof of the car, whomever painted it didn't have the technique 100% dialed in.

Anotheridiot... I do agree that they will have to use the body lines to their advantage to make a good blend on it, if they don't have enough experience to make a perfect blend irrespective of body lines.

 

[Jim C]

yes the entire pbc line doesnt cover well at all. it used to be better 10 years ago but has just gotten worse which is why i stopped using it and just mixed it off my diamont rack which is now my wanda rack. hok has a blanket procedure to just put white under all their colors, even if it is a dark pearl black or brown. thats all bs and they just want you to use more product. some of course do need white like bright oranges, pinks, yellows etc but for the most part you want to get either the foundation color to a similar color or value as the top color. of course this doesnt help the shop now who needs to repair it but in any case the white isnt part of the final color in any way. its a single step paint. they can shoot it over grey primer and it will be fine. the problem just comes into play where the previous shop who did the job didnt put on enough to goto full hiding. thats a problem and a pia no matter what paint line your using.