Picking basecoat brand

aggie jon;33216 said:
Awesome. Looking at a couple of other options thanks to a HAMB thread about maroons. Also looking at 58-97 Jaguar Regency Red, and 78/79 Cadillac Madeira Maroon. Going to spend some time looking through chip books for "the right" maroon for me. I have a jeep that I had colormatched to a maroon color that I had and turned out way too purple once mixed. We tinkered and took the purple out and darkened it up, but its still got that purple tinge to it.

I have noticed that the colors range from purplish red to a copper red, then a maroon that is more black. I'm going for the dark maroon that has no evidence of purple, orange, or blue. All this makes sense in my head. Probably not a lick of sense to anyone else.

Guess I just need to get out into the sunlight with a chip book.

If you like the color I would go with the Jaguar color, if made until 97 it would be the easiest for you to get in the future, no matter what paint line you chooses.

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aggie jon;33216 said:
Awesome. Looking at a couple of other options thanks to a HAMB thread about maroons. Also looking at 58-97 Jaguar Regency Red, and 78/79 Cadillac Madeira Maroon. Going to spend some time looking through chip books for "the right" maroon for me. I have a jeep that I had colormatched to a maroon color that I had and turned out way too purple once mixed. We tinkered and took the purple out and darkened it up, but its still got that purple tinge to it.

I have noticed that the colors range from purplish red to a copper red, then a maroon that is more black. I'm going for the dark maroon that has no evidence of purple, orange, or blue. All this makes sense in my head. Probably not a lick of sense to anyone else.

Guess I just need to get out into the sunlight with a chip book.

If you like the color I would go with the Jaguar color, if made until 97 it would be the easiest for you to get in the future, no matter what paint line you chooses.

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satarules;33252 said:
talk to the "boss" at chads paint and audio.i was hesitant to try pro-spray but I gotta tell ya I spoke to barry for a hour in a very technical manner about basecoats and he convinced me to try it.well all I can say is it is by far the best as far as quality vs. price.tried wanda and hated it but I am VERY PICKY about my paints.next up on the list would be diamont great base for about 30% more than prospray.and I have seen no difference in performance.just saw the first car I used pro spray on 2 days ago and she looks as good as the day she left.1 quick thing to make sure ya ask the boss real nice to make sure she mixes it in med. solids.quicker coverage.chad usually mixes low solids variant as they tend to be better for blending.and don't dare ask him to mix in high solids he'll get mad just jokin chad.the high solids variant has given him nothing but problems so he doesn't sell it because he cares about you getting it done right the first time

What did you not like about Wanda,, just curious, a few non local jobbers were pushing it around here but I think it phased out already in this area. And yes nothing but problems with high solids.. Mostly wrinkling issues, from full cars to bumpers.. Almost all of the problems were on red though, from bright red to maroon, had one silver one wrinkle to.. also, color match was a mess in HS.. I originally had the best luck with color matches in Normal solids as well, but lately finding some colors have better match in medium solids so it's a tough choice sometimes, the difference in color match between the two usually isn't to much though. I usually find the higher the solids the less the metallic comes through.

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jeremyb;33261 said:
I've been testing out the High Solids lately since I've put in a machine. I definately use the high solids for solid colors, especially yellows and whites. I haven't noticed any problems there. I talked to my rep about the issue with the high solids that chad told me about months ago, and he said they have improved it. Could be bs, but who knows. I've used it on a few silvers so far but just on a bumper cover or small area. Seemed to work well, but for the most part I do use medium solids. It blends out great and covers great and very blendable matches.

I think this line is going to greatly improve over the next year since being bought by Quest. I was a little worried at first since they own Matrix also. They have already updated the variant system and will have another update this year. I've been using it for the past few months on all my lexus dealer work and have been nothing but impressed. Even the older car colors that I've done match pretty good and they have a pretty good database of the old color codes. More than I am used to with using akzo products.

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I've been testing out the High Solids lately since I've put in a machine. I definately use the high solids for solid colors, especially yellows and whites. I haven't noticed any problems there. I talked to my rep about the issue with the high solids that chad told me about months ago, and he said they have improved it. Could be bs, but who knows. I've used it on a few silvers so far but just on a bumper cover or small area. Seemed to work well, but for the most part I do use medium solids. It blends out great and covers great and very blendable matches.

I think this line is going to greatly improve over the next year since being bought by Quest. I was a little worried at first since they own Matrix also. They have already updated the variant system and will have another update this year. I've been using it for the past few months on all my lexus dealer work and have been nothing but impressed. Even the older car colors that I've done match pretty good and they have a pretty good database of the old color codes. More than I am used to with using akzo products.


Keep us posted on the HS, especially if you have any wrinkles or anything.. For the most part I don't see any need for it other than, like you stated, yellows or whites, other than that everything covers really well in medium.. Actually I think white and yellow even covers fairly well in Medium. Usually just plan on another coat or two.
 
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