old mag wheel cleaning

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Treeslayer

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not paint related but i figured some one here will know. what was in the old wheel cleaner in the 80s? i know it was an acid but what kind and how much?
i sent my kid to napa the other day for wheel cleaner with acid, he came back with nuthin. got some purple power aluminum brightener and it dont touch it.
guys my age will remember, spray that you sprayed on aluminum wheels, wait 5 min and hose off. all the oxidation and dirt came off, ready for polish.
 
I've used this on the pontoons on my boat before polishing. Also used it on a set of aluminum wheels on a bronco before polishing them.
Worked fairly well.

I remember using eagle one cleaner years ago, but haven't seen that in years
 

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I want to preface this post by saying this isn't a plug for Eagle 1. This is simply a brand that has been readily available in my area. I use to use only Eagle 1 for wheels, Bleech-White for tires.

I have used Eagle 1 Etching Wheel Cleaner to remove oxidation ONLY on raw aluminum. I remember a product called Eagle 1 A to Z which was good stuff. I think that is now called Eagle 1 All Wheel & Tire. They also have a product called Aluminum Wheel Cleaner.
 
UAmember said:
I want to preface this post by saying this isn't a plug for Eagle 1. This is simply a brand that has been readily available in my area. I use to use only Eagle 1 for wheels, Bleech-White for tires.

I have used Eagle 1 Etching Wheel Cleaner to remove oxidation ONLY on raw aluminum. I remember a product called Eagle 1 A to Z which was good stuff. I think that is now called Eagle 1 All Wheel & Tire. They also have a product called Aluminum Wheel Cleaner.
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i wonder if thats not what i used back then? seems to ring a bell. i have not seen it in a long time what ever it was.
 
UAmember said:
The etching wheel cleaner is no longer available. I reckon some See-aira club assholes lobbied for it to be banned fearing the runoff would affect the once in a decade spawning habits of the unicorn salmon.
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Most were hydrofluoric acid based--too many deaths from absorption by the unsuspecting, so that's why you don't see "etching" cleaners for aluminum-magnesium alloy automobile wheels. "Etching" implies acid rather than a caustic.
 
D.A.T. said:
Most were hydrofluoric acid based--too many deaths from absorption by the unsuspecting, so that's why you don't see "etching" cleaners for aluminum-magnesium alloy automobile wheels. "Etching" implies acid rather than a caustic.
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hmm, been reading up. it appears the old eagle one wheel cleaner was indeed hydroflouric acid, or it did contain this. it is pretty bad stuff. it was very effective. i can see why it was took off the market in a way. i wonder if a diluted muriatic acid would do just as well? boy, spell check dosent like any of those words huh?
 
DON'T put muriatic acid on aluminum!
Phosphoric type would do some etching. I have used Bonderite Aero 33 from Henkel for cleaning aluminum with good results.
 
welp, nothing we could find really worked. i stopped short on strong acid and they are now out for blasting. the guy says its better to use soda since we want to polish the spokes. so i believe i have read some where on here that will have to be neutralized before epoxy? will a good scrub with dawn and plenty of water rinse do that? i was hoping he would glass bead blast them but he says that will texture the surface and make polishing really difficult.
 
are you sure the wheels weren't clearcoated? for any of those cleaners to work the aluminum needs to be bare.
 
Never heard of anyone dying from absorbing hydrofluoric acid? Any articles?
Just interested as it's a very unique acid in that it's the only thing I know that dissolves glass. I have seen guys use it to cut down windshields on custom cars.
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clubairth said:
Never heard of anyone dying from absorbing hydrofluoric acid? Any articles?
Just interested as it's a very unique acid in that it's the only thing I know that dissolves glass. I have seen guys use it to cut down windshields on custom cars.
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Death is rare but it is a rather dangerous chemical and can cause tissue, organ, (including the heart) and bone damage if improperly handled.

Hydrofluoric Acid and Hydrogen Fluoride - Environmental Health and Safety - Purdue University

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CDC | Facts About Hydrogen Fluoride (Hydrofluoric Acid)

Information on terrorism and public health. Provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
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Fun fact: In Breaking Bad Season 1 Walt dissolves a body using hydroflouric acid. In reality it is not strong enough to do what was depicted on the show.
 
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