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Treeslayer said:
you guys that use these torpedo heaters, do you paint with it running? i am just slightly concerned with the flammability issue.....
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You'll be fine. Lots and lots of guys have used them in a non booth environment. The concentrations are not high enough, even with a lot of overspray in the room to ignite.
Now gasoline fumes are a different story. Never run it when you are doing something with gas. Gas settles to the floor, paint fumes don't. I knew a couple of old timers who painted in a Shop with a wood stove. Never an issue.
I've run one in some pretty appalling conditions. Biggest issue you'll have is paint clogging the intake and sticking on the fan.
 
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Chris_Hamilton said:
You'll be fine. Lots and lots of guys have used them in a non booth environment. The concentrations are not high enough, even with a lot of overspray in the room to ignite.
Now gasoline fumes is a different story. Never run it when you are doing something with gas. Gas settles to the floor, paint fumes don't. I knew a couple of old timers who painted in a Shop with a wood stove. Never an issue.
I've run one in some pretty appalling conditions. Biggest issue you'll have is paint clogging the intake and sticking on the fan.
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I'm all for safety and take all reasonable precautions, especially with PPE.

But I have to chuckle when I hear someone insist that sealed motor fans are a must for painting when I know that people smoke cigarettes, run torpedo heaters, wood stoves, etc when painting. If paint fumes were that flammable, there would be a LOT of flattened garages.
 
its been two days. the first 24 was kept at least 70 degrees. when should i take it outside? is frost a concern at this point?
i swear it looks better as time goes on. no way its still leveling itself? learning curve, i am beginning to understand what you guys were talking about.
if i were to spray it on the way i think it should look wet, i am spraying too heavy. it looked a little dry in some spots as sprayed but now i cant see any of those spots.
 
If it was at 70 for the first 24 hours then you are fine. You can put it outside if you want to. Getting it in the sun will help the cure as well. Epoxy cures with UV light.
 
Chris_Hamilton said:
If it was at 70 for the first 24 hours then you are fine. You can put it outside if you want to. Getting it in the sun will help the cure as well. Epoxy cures with UV light.
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thanks Chris. i may take it out tomorrow. they are calling for frost just about every night next week, i was a little concerned with that.
i must say, this is different than any thing i ever worked with. i swear sand scratches i could pick out first sprayed, i cant see now. its almost like its getting smoother, yet was almost dry to the light touch an hour after spraying.
 
crazy question...you dont know what ya dont know.
we have a set of 15x10 hurricane wheels for this project. my son would like to polish the spokes and paint in between black.
i have never attempted to paint aluminum. whats a good plan on that? could i just use the black epoxy? what should be done to the surface before painting? should i polish the spokes before or after? im not sure whats in aluminum polish, could be an acid?
im sure this has been done before? almost sure some had black between the spokes new.
 
also, i need to re seam seal the drip rail on the cab. i already removed all the previous guys body filler, luckily it does not need metal, just a quick sand blasting. plan to epoxy it first, but what kind of sealer do i want? like every thing now days, there is hundreds of brands and kinds.
 
Treeslayer said:
does it help to maintain temp on the panel or is it only for uv?
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Infrared is not UV, it’s a much higher wavelength on the electromagnetic spectrum. IR heats surfaces—not air—so it is ideal for maintaining panel temp because it will warm a panel up real quick, but the IR wavelength is also ideal for penetrating into the finish and curing it very quickly.

I use mine for a personal heater in the winter time too.

 
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Lizer said:
Infrared is not UV, it’s a much higher wavelength on the electromagnetic spectrum. IR heats surfaces—not air—so it is ideal for maintaining panel temp because it will warm a panel up real quick, but the IR wavelength is also ideal for penetrating into the finish and curing it very quickly.

I use mine for a personal heater in the winter time too.

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would leave it on over night? i am contemplating a new plan of attack for the cab, one panel at a time. its going to be almost impossible to maintain temps in the whole building over night now.
im still thankful that place on the cab top dosent need new metal. this rig was a great example on why not to put filler on bare metal.
 
Treeslayer said:
would leave it on over night? i am contemplating a new plan of attack for the cab, one panel at a time. its going to be almost impossible to maintain temps in the whole building over night now.
im still thankful that place on the cab top dosent need new metal. this rig was a great example on why not to put filler on bare metal.
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That’s the beauty of infrared…you wouldn’t need to leave it on overnight. I think if you left the lamp on the panel for 4 hrs you’d be more than good to go.

Short wave IR cures paint in as little as 15 min. Medium wave IR (which is what this lamp is) is about 4 times longer I think, and since this is epoxy and it’s more temperamental, 4 hrs is much longer than anything I’ve ever been told to do. So I’d think it should be safe but maybe ask Barry to be sure, if the epoxy is ok to get cold after 4 hr under IR.
 
thanks lizer. maybe Barry will see this. hey, ya dont know what ya dont know. if it werent for you guys, i never would learn any thing. us dum dums dont even know these kind of things exist.
 
Treeslayer said:
thanks lizer. maybe Barry will see this. hey, ya dont know what ya dont know. if it werent for you guys, i never would learn any thing. us dum dums dont even know these kind of things exist.
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You need to call him. He can’t see everything on here. He’s actually told me before he relies on us because he can’t possibly respond to everything nor does he think he needs to or should.
 
Lizer said:
You need to call him. He can’t see everything on here. He’s actually told me before he relies on us because he can’t possibly respond to everything nor does he think he needs to or should.
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no i wouldnt think he could. idk how he can run a business and take calls all hours. that man cares about what hes selling.
 
i have talked to a couple pro painters, non of them have even herd of spi or keeping it warm for 24 hours.......even though they have climate controlled shops, so its really a non issue for them. im kinda trying to get them to try the product, i wish i was a better painter so they could see what it really should look like lol.
 
Lizer said:
You need to call him. He can’t see everything on here. He’s actually told me before he relies on us because he can’t possibly respond to everything nor does he think he needs to or should.
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Barry has commented the same to me .
 
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