Lloyds Kryptonite

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Been researching automotive frame preservation/painting. Found a lot of good info on this site. I know many on here recommend epoxy primer for frames as opposed to (moisture-cured) urethanes (I hope I've got that right). I recently learned of this stuff, which GM recommends/uses: Lloyds Kryptonite (page 30).

Marketing material/product sheet refers to it as a "fast dry, heat resistant anti-corrosion primer" and says "use as a primer or a satin black finish coat", "bond(s) to steel through an electrochemical reaction", and "outlasts hot dipped galvanized, powder coating, and epoxy coating". Instructions call for a clean and dry surface free of corrosion scale and prepped with phosphate metal treatment.

I've seen on this site that zinc is good and that many people do not like POR/urethane products (or at least not the paint-over-rust claims). As best as I could tell this seems to have a completely different makeup from POR.

The SDS lists Toluene 30-40%, Xylene 15-20%, Talc 10-15%, Ethyl Benzene 3-5%, Trizinc Bis Orthophosphate 1-3%, Glycol Ether EB 1-3%, and Zinc Oxide 0.5-1%.

I don't know much about paint. What are thoughts on this? What is it? How does it compare to and differ from a urethane or epoxy primer? Is it 1K? I was looking at this autobody101 thread and can't figure out where this fits.

Thanks for any insight and for forgiving my naivete.

J
 
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Never heard of it. I would take GM's recommendations with a grain of salt as well. OEM's haven't quite figured out how to prevent rust, they've gotten better but plenty of late model stuff in the snow belt is rusting away now.

Quality epoxy like SPI's applied over properly prepped surfaces will last a lifetime. Looking at the product, it appears to be a surface treatment of some sort. They make some grandiose claims. IDK, have no familiarity with it. I'm happy using epoxy as it is the best thing I have used protection/toughness wise since I started doing this many years ago.

Read up on epoxy here on the forum using the search function. It is the best product to use on metal as a first primer IMO. SPI makes the best epoxy on the market today.
 
Automotive said:
Been researching automotive frame preservation/painting. Found a lot of good info on this site. I know many on here recommend epoxy primer for frames as opposed to (moisture-cured) urethanes (I hope I've got that right). I recently learned of this stuff, which GM recommends/uses: Lloyds Kryptonite (page 30).

Marketing material/product sheet refers to it as a "fast dry, heat resistant anti-corrosion primer" and says "use as a primer or a satin black finish coat", "bond(s) to steel through an electrochemical reaction", and "outlasts hot dipped galvanized, powder coating, and epoxy coating". Instructions call for a clean and dry surface free of corrosion scale and prepped with phosphate metal treatment.

I've seen on this site that zinc is good and that many people do not like POR/urethane products (or at least not the paint-over-rust claims). As best as I could tell this seems to have a completely different makeup from POR.

The SDS lists Toluene 30-40%, Xylene 15-20%, Talc 10-15%, Ethyl Benzene 3-5%, Trizinc Bis Orthophosphate 1-3%, Glycol Ether EB 1-3%, and Zinc Oxide 0.5-1%.

I don't know much about paint. What are thoughts on this? What is it? How does it compare to and differ from a urethane or epoxy primer? Is it 1K? I was looking at this autobody101 thread and can't figure out where this fits.

Thanks for any insight and for forgiving my naivete.

J
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Interesting product. Reading the product description, I found this intising......
.........."Eliminates flash rusting for several weeks"

I've never used the product, and I don't know if that product has every been used under SPI products.

I won't take the word of someone's claim if they can't back it up with proof.

Thanks for sharing though. The company has been around for a long time.
 
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