Counterfeit products

Yeah that video is gaining traction fast! Just saw it on one of the Ford FE forums I follow. Aside from the entire copying thing...to steal ones name is a new low. No honor or pride what so ever....just make a dollar and move on. Broader makes quality stuff and puts out good items/work. Everything in my C6 came from them. Hopefully there is some restitution for them.
 
China seems to be exempt from any type of legal actions that could be taken under copywrite laws. They have become the new world power, controlling manufacturing, shipping, marketing, etc. while paying off those in our government that should be doing something to stop them.
 
An acquaintance of mine has a similar business with a small run manufacturing LLC and then a sales LLC. He takes a nice royalty on the on the wholesale side for every part coming out of the Mazak machining center. The sales side is to run blocker and shield the machining side. He told me the "China copy" actually worked out well in his favor. People call the sales side of the business when the counterfeit ones with his name on them breaks and he gets a sale with little effort by saying the eight words--"look on my website about buying counterfeit items". People's own cheapness feeds this. Anyone who buys specialty things knows what they should cost and why.
 
I would question why Summit would keep selling the product once they were made aware of the fraudulent product. If Summit does quit selling the product then great for Summit if not then you have two entities that are on a blacklist for supporting this type of fraud. Do we even have anyone any more in the USA that goes after China for these type of issues? Before you answer Yes, is it posted some where online for the public to read and be made aware of.
I am with the guy 100% on the video. Who will be next?
 

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Lone Star said:
I would question why Summit would keep selling the product once they were made aware of the fraudulent product. If Summit does quit selling the product then great for Summit if not then you have two entities that are on a blacklist for supporting this type
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If Summit is aware of this, and they haven't stopped buying from that supplier, I'm greatly disappointed. It will curve my outlook from making purchases from them. I've bought from Summit for the past 30 years.
 
Lone Star said:
I would question why Summit would keep selling the product once they were made aware of the fraudulent product. If Summit does quit selling the product then great for Summit if not then you have two entities that are on a blacklist for supporting this type of fraud. Do we even have anyone any more in the USA that goes after China for these type of issues? Before you answer Yes, is it posted some where online for the public to read and be made aware of.
I am with the guy 100% on the video. Who will be next?
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Somebody is lying!
 
You have to be very careful these days. Almost every quality aftermarket (and OEM) part is counterfeited by the POS's in Chinesium. Even stuff you would never suspect. Run of the mill Bosch fuel pumps are one. Speedmaster is famous for this and I would never purchase anything Speedmaster. Just a garbage company. This will make me re-think buying anything from Summit as well. Pro-Comp is another name to stay away from, part of the Speedmaster company.
 
The presenter in the video acts quite surprised about his company name being used but should not be. Apparently he does not state anything on his website about his business name being his legally registered property he controls----no evidence he trademarked the name in any of the databases I looked at for the USA. If he does not have any current patents for his device he shows------------well----------------out of luck with saying it is stolen. Not fraud then but unethical misrepresentation. One of my friends had a welding supply distributor business. He had the right in his contract as a distributor for the 3 major brands of welding machines not to provide warranty service for anything he did not sell to the user originally. He turned away all the internet buyers seeking local warranty work since it was common to see non-OEM parts on them someone scabbed together to fool the price savvy buyer...................................if you bought it via the internet send it back to who you bought it from.

"Southern Polyurethanes, Inc." is trademarked in the United States Patent and Trademarks Office and you could be subject to a "cease and desist" letter first by them if you choose attempt to infringe on their name--keep going with that and well you might be dealing with the Attorney General in Georgia or US Customs Agents if you are importing.

I really don't understand consumers who don't buy from a listed distributor of some value added manufacturer who directs you to buy from that source to insure you get their product.
 
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D.A.T. said:
The presenter in the video acts quite surprised about his company name being used but should not be. Apparently he does not state anything on his website about his business name being his legally registered property he controls----no evidence he trademarked the name in any of the databases I looked at for the USA. If he does not have any current patents for his device he shows------------well----------------out of luck with saying it is stolen. Not fraud then but unethical misrepresentation. One of my friends had a welding supply distributor business. He had the right in his contract as a distributor for the 3 major brands of welding machines not to provide warranty service for anything he did not sell to the user originally. He turned away all the internet buyers seeking local warranty work since it was common to see non-OEM parts on them someone scabbed together to fool the price savvy buyer...................................if you bought it via the internet send it back to who you bought it from.

"Southern Polyurethanes, Inc." is trademarked in the United States Patent and Trademarks Office and you could be subject to a "cease and desist" letter first by them if you choose attempt to infringe on their name--keep going with that and well you might be dealing with the Attorney General in Georgia or US Customs Agents if you are importing.

I really don't understand consumers who don't buy from a listed distributor of some value added manufacturer who directs you to buy from that source to insure you get their product.
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Do you really think a trademark or copyright would stop these people? Bosch is one of the most counterfeited brands in auto parts and none of that stops them from having products counterfeited and sometimes sold through reputable sources. Most everything that gets counterfeited is copyrighted and trademarked. The Chinese don't give a shit. No State AG or even the FBI is going to touch them in China. I'm sure Summit has their contract with Speedmaster written to essentially absolve them of reselling counterfeit goods. Thing that stands out in the video is that this a very niche type product. Not many are ever going to be sold yet Speedmaster stole it and had the gall to put the guys name (company name ) on it. Maybe it's not legally fraud but it most certainly is ethically.
 
To further illustrate what a shit company Speedmaster is, last year one of Edelbrock's prominent engineers left the company to work on his own. Speedmaster contracted him to do some basic consulting work for them, they then put out a press release saying they "hired" this very reputable guy and that he was heading their engineering department when in reality no such thing occurred. I will never use anything Speedmaster sells. Even if it was given to me.
 
Chris_Hamilton said:
Do you really think a trademark or copyright would stop these people? Bosch is one of the most counterfeited brands in auto parts and none of that stops them from having products counterfeited and sometimes sold through reputable sources. Most everything that gets counterfeited is copyrighted and trademarked. The Chinese don't give a shit. No State AG or even the FBI is going to touch them in China. I'm sure Summit has their contract with Speedmaster written to essentially absolve them of reselling counterfeit goods. Thing that stands out in the video is that this a very niche type product. Not many are ever going to be sold yet Speedmaster stole it and had the gall to put the guys name (company name ) on it. Maybe it's not legally fraud but it most certainly is ethically.
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No, US trademark and copywrite won't stop anyone from manufacturing or copying or counterfeiting anything overseas in the Far East or here in the USA. It used to be the former Warsaw pact countries doing this the last 50 years trying to undermine the West. Industrial equipment has often been just south of the NAFTA agreement. What it does is provide the first line of attack and the legal basis (if one chooses to spend the time and money) for anyone selling counterfeit things in this country that someone wants to contest. You go after the sellers. Usually whoever has the most money wins whether they are the thief or not. It is a start to setting traps and bating for vermin. Think your idea or service or business name isn't fair chase when it is successful--- better go live in a fairy tale. Your family, soon to be ex-wife and your business partner are often the first suspects in a lot of sad loss stories for small businesses. Then comes a private equity group when the cash cows start and good businesses become a take-over mark....................... Maybe Speedmaster will sue Broader Performance and they steal the whole business if they gain trademark of that business name. No reason for them not to try if they are actively using that name and the video presenter says he has known about it for a couple years............and no one is contesting it. To win--you have to be a better chess player with strategy and money spending.

For all the bashing people do about Summit and Eastwood paint products--it seeks to reason--all the other merchandise they market--is the same category. For every counterfeiter to succeed--it takes a thrifty cheapy value shopper buyer as well--don't buy from them then and expect a good deal to benefit you.
 
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"For all the bashing people do about Summit and Eastwood paint products"
they relabel cheap junk low line paint. usually, Valspar or Kirker.
 
I see the reply on the video. good to read elsewhere that they are taking this seriously. too many companies that dont GARA and will still sell counterfeited product.
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Summit didn't have to think very long about this one. The sales lost vs sales gained by keeping this third party vendor.

The one thing I've noticed about Summit for a while now is they've become a third party middle man. If they can make $1.00 dollar on the part, they be more than happy to order it from a vendor who has the part, then have that vendor drop ship the part to you.

I'm avoiding those parts because 95% of the time it's a backordered part.
 
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