Body filler over seam sealer

old soul

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Short version - Can I apply body filler over seam sealer (SEM #39777) that has been epoxied (SPI) ?


Long version- Car is a '39 Chevy that had the drip rails removed when the top was chopped, 15 years ago. Where the drip rails were removed needed a small bead of seam sealer

according to the original builder. Now, after 2 previous all-over paint jobs over the last decade and a half it is in my shop and there was some lifting on one side where the drip rail

used to be. I ground it down to find rust had bubbled the paint. I spot blasted the area ( about 1 inch by 16 inches) and discovered a small hole at the end of the area. The hole

was not from rust so I assume it was created during the top chop or drip rail removal, only about the size of a pencil lead. Owner did not want the hole welded up for fear of

possibly damaging the interior, which he did not want removed. I applied two coats of SPI epoxy. After 2 days cure I hit the epoxy lightly with 180, cleaned and applied a bead of

SEM #39777 High build self-leveling seam sealer making sure the small hole was adequately filled. After a 3 day cure I sanded the seam sealer to make it a uniform shape, cleaned

and applied one coat of SPI epoxy. Since the car has been painted twice (whole body skim coated with filler before first paint), where the area was blasted and re-sealed is lower

than the surrounding area, of course, and will need to be leveled up. Can I apply body filler over seam sealer that has been epoxied ? In 25 years I have never had this situation

and I am kind of uncomfortable to do it because I've never done it !

Thanks
 
I do not have an answer to your question.

To be safe, I would suggest getting rid of the seam sealer and using a good 2 part epoxy such as body panel adhesive or even marine tex.

Then epoxy, etc.
 
Just my 2cents, If you put epoxy over the 2K seamsealer it will work as a tiecoat for the bodyfiller-so adhesion will be fine. If there's rust on the backside of the hole and if it starts to grow again the repair life will be limited to how long the corrosion takes to work back up around the edge of the hole. If this is within an open seam it was a good idea to use the seamsealer-you wouldn't want to use filler within a seam to avoid cracking later.
 
old soul;26389 said:
Short version - Can I apply body filler over seam sealer (SEM #39777) that has been epoxied (SPI) ?


Long version- Car is a '39 Chevy that had the drip rails removed when the top was chopped, 15 years ago. Where the drip rails were removed needed a small bead of seam sealer

according to the original builder. Now, after 2 previous all-over paint jobs over the last decade and a half it is in my shop and there was some lifting on one side where the drip rail

used to be. I ground it down to find rust had bubbled the paint. I spot blasted the area ( about 1 inch by 16 inches) and discovered a small hole at the end of the area. The hole

was not from rust so I assume it was created during the top chop or drip rail removal, only about the size of a pencil lead. Owner did not want the hole welded up for fear of

possibly damaging the interior, which he did not want removed. I applied two coats of SPI epoxy. After 2 days cure I hit the epoxy lightly with 180, cleaned and applied a bead of

SEM #39777 High build self-leveling seam sealer making sure the small hole was adequately filled. After a 3 day cure I sanded the seam sealer to make it a uniform shape, cleaned

and applied one coat of SPI epoxy. Since the car has been painted twice (whole body skim coated with filler before first paint), where the area was blasted and re-sealed is lower

than the surrounding area, of course, and will need to be leveled up. Can I apply body filler over seam sealer that has been epoxied ? In 25 years I have never had this situation

and I am kind of uncomfortable to do it because I've never done it !

Thanks

This is the one area where we will use kitty hair....grind out all the seam sealer...it is the wrong product here and is a problem...apply spi epoxy, then apply Evercoat kitty hair (or some other WATERPROOF kittyhair filler...reapply epoxy and bodywork as desired...the hole will allow moisture up through regular bondo and cause the same problem again. It should last...
 
Thanks, guys, for the replies. Your experience and knowledge is highly regarded and sharing it is appreciated. I now have some solid information to base my direction on. Thank you all.
 
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