Another "how do I fix this"

grogetter

Member
So I'm down to one paint booboo to deal with before I deliver the customer and I ask my neighbor, who is a car guy and knows how to do this, to help me install the hood on this 64 Malibu. I give him two bolts and I take two bolts. Not realizing it till it was too late, I gave him the two longer bolts. When he snugged up the real bolt ( which should have been a short bolt) being very sharply pointed OEM bolt it punched right through the hood skin. He felt really bad but it was my fault for not sorting the bolts into long and short.
Anyway, the photos show where the damage is on the hood and after it sanded down the immediate area and hammered the metal down.
I don't plan to weld up the hole since I have no access to the underside because of the hood structure to be able to planish the weld.
What steps would you take to repair the finish?
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well i had that happen to me once also...it may have been overkill but i made a small disc of copper and glued it to flattened end of a 3/8 bolt screwed it against the hole with a slight bit of pressure against sheet metal and welded it up with very minimal clean up...mine wasnt painted,,,but im sure you will be ok with that small of an area..good luck.
 

grogetter

Member
Ok. I get it. I'll weld it up. I was scared to weld it because of shrinkage but the metal in the area around it has moved anyway.
My bigger question was how do I fix the paint. As Chris pointed out there is a very thin layer of filler there. Should I sand down to the filler around it then fill this area and sand, epoxy then lay down base and clear?
Or, should I just fill this small area then prep the larger area and put base/clear over existing base/clear?
I hope my questions make sense.
Thanks everyone.
 

crashtech

Combo Man
just make sure that you remove enough material so that anything burned or loosened from the heat has been removed. Feather and bevel it back a bit with 80 and 180, then epoxy primer it and put it in the sun for a day. Then you can start leveling it back up with some filler.
 

grogetter

Member
So I prepped then epoxy coated the repair area then used filler to contour. So far - so good. My original plan was to blend in the corner but now I plan to sand the entire hood with 800 wet, apply seal coat of epoxy then respray base and clear over the entire hood.
Does this sound like a good plan?
Thanks.
 
being its a light metallic color...sounds like a solid plan...one that i would do myself..and hopefully your painting under the same conditions and air pressure when you first painted.
 
another option is to seal your repair area only scuff and redo base... and clear .that would save you a layer from sealing whole hood...and you probably wont need as much base for coverage.
 

grogetter

Member
That was my first plan, except that I was going to try a blend, but I was concerned that having a different color substrate, the epoxy, might affect the look of the new base/clear.
 

Chris_Hamilton

Trying to be the best me, I can be
That was my first plan, except that I was going to try a blend, but I was concerned that having a different color substrate, the epoxy, might affect the look of the new base/clear.
Let's say that is the case then doing the entire hood would have the same result. Only now the hood to the fenders.
Blending it to the rest of the hood would be my choice as well. Should be fairly easy if you still have some of the paint you used. Do the repair, prime it, 800 wet the entire hood. No sealer, base over your primed area until you get coverage then clear it. That would be the easiest route and also help ensure the rest of the hood matches to the fenders. And as long as you get coverage and blend out without any hard stop start areas, your repair area will match as well.
If you have questions about the process, feel free to ask. :)
 

grogetter

Member
Thanks, Chris. The entire car was in grey epoxy before applying base so I thought that applying grey epoxy as sealer to the entire hood would ensure that there would be no color change from the substrate being different across the hood if I applied epoxy to the whole thing.
Thoughts?
 

texasking

Active Member
I've tried what you are planning before. There is a reason I won't attempt it again. The same reason I, personally, would never try to paint a light colored metallic complete in pieces. There are just too many variables that affect the color. I would guess, chances of the hood to fender matching are less than 50%. Blends are done thousands of times a day for that reason. You have plenty of room to blend that spot out, and taking your time and not having any "hard" stops, you have a much better chance of success blending, IMO.
 

grogetter

Member
Thanks, Tex. I'm going to have hard stops along the edge and back of the hood, regardless. Can they be blended some how?
Also, yesterday I wet sanded the whole thing with 800. Will that be a problem for an overall clear?
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i know this sounds like a snow ball affect...like chris and tex says blending may be tuff with the light color..you just may have to bend into the fender and cowl .one good thing you can blend fender on top all the way to that sharp bend where it starts down the side ,,,where the light hits the metallic at a differant angle and re clear whole fender and blend the cowl the same distance as the hood blending towards the center..blending right at that style line in the hood will be in your favor also..if you dontneed to go further...frustrating i know have patience.
 

Chris_Hamilton

Trying to be the best me, I can be
i know this sounds like a snow ball affect...like chris and tex says blending may be tuff with the light color..you just may have to bend into the fender and cowl .one good thing you can blend fender on top all the way to that sharp bend where it starts down the side ,,,where the light hits the metallic at a differant angle and re clear whole fender and blend the cowl the same distance as the hood blending towards the center..blending right at that style line in the hood will be in your favor also..if you dontneed to go further...frustrating i know have patience.
If he's nervous about blending within the hood blending into the fender and the cowl may be out of the question for him. Honestly blending within the hood will be easy. About as easy as it gets.

Grogetter read through some of my posts talking about blending. I go into a lot of detail in several post about how to blend.


Ask questions if you have them about the process.
 

grogetter

Member
This info might change the whole deal.
I also need to repaint the left and right side edges of the hood
Chris. Thanks for the information about blending. I've read some of it previously but I'll really dig into it now.
 
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