shimrin candy basecoats. Thoughts, pitfalls, better products?

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I want to shoot a oriental candy type paint job without the extra effort of a full blown candy job.

Any feedback on shimrin candy HOK basecoats? Good stuff? not so good stuff? alternatives?

Thanks!
 
We used straight shimrin base on my Son's car with Universal over it, catalyzed the base and it's held up really well-still looks fresh after 3 summers. Chip resistance has been awesome. 2.jpg

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Well hok is fine and good but rm's carizzma line has a candy-ez formulas which look 1000times better and more like a real candy job
 
I think go with something different... All of the hok colors have been over-used at this point.
They only have so many color options to choose from..
That or go through a oem chip book.. lots of good colors to choose from.
 
Jim C;989 said:
Well hok is fine and good but rm's carizzma line has a candy-ez formulas which look 1000times better and more like a real candy job
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Jim, There's no RM distributors up here in the U.P., how does the pricing compare to PPG DBC and Global or DuPont's Chroma Premiere?
I would bet the product covers well? No special reducers? The Carizzma line-is that a regular BC/CC system or tricoat? Repairability? Do you sell it? Enough questions? Bob
 
I just picked up 6 quarts of Global BC the other day, basic 1968 Code EE Fathom Blue/Dark Blue Poly for a (discounted) cost of $504.41.......... I wonder what list price was! These paint prices are getting way outaline, glad it wasn't a pearl or red or something exotic.

Chad, just curious, what is ProSpray pricing on this color? GM 1968 code EE

A gallon of DCC solid maroon was $446 cost
 
I'll have to check, but my guess would be around $250.

on the maroon. would be even harder to guess. Bright reds can get as much as $100.00 or a so per quart, maroons, probably more like $75 a qt.
 
Bob, the carizzma line is a line of candies and a few special effect powders. Most of the carizzma line is actually just formulas mixed right off the rack using the regular toners or a combination of those and the candies. They also have color matches for all of hok's pbc line. As for price, well its more than hok but it also covers better too. Depending on formula it can go from $80 - $300 a quart. The pricy ones have the camelion pearls on them. Its all just regular diamont base so rm or spi reducer works fine. The only formulas that are tri coat would be a candy formula otherwise they are all a one shot deal. again other than the candies it repairs just like any oem color.
 
Chad, if you have time check the pricing on the blue-I'd like to know. To the original poster-Sorry I took this thread off course.
 
I like that it works off of the mix bank..
Pro-spray has the outrageous line but it's basically it's own line.
They would do better with it if they had a better way to display their colors.. their fan deck is not the best..
 
Jim, thanks for the info! Wish we had an RM distributor up here, I seen it in one custom shop 3 hours west of me but that's it. Next time I'm in that area I'll check out the color decks.
 
I painted my car in 2005 with carizzma candy red and blue than SPI HS clear. This is the second time I have painted a car with candy colors the other one was 30 years ago.

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Rusty, did you spray the red and blue as a tri-stage/candy- red base/red candy midcoat, blue base/blue candy midcoat? Or did you use the white as your base and apply transparent colors over it?
 
I painted it pearl white first (should have had more pearl in it) than a coat of clear. The next day started spraying the candy colors. I did this all by myself and I hate to tape and after 17 hours straight I went home for a couple of hours sleep and than sprayed a couple coats of clear. Wet sanded and had the lettering hand painted. Next day more clear.
 
I bet your gun arm was tired:D The results were well worth the effort though!

When I was growing up there was a custom 66 GTO that had been painted by Byron Grenfell a local legend, I think it was a silver base with several layers of red candy, a layer of pearl, more red candy, and clear-all done in lacquer. Unbelievable deep candy job and I've never seen any other like it. It had a glow and a reflection, wish I had a picture... The candy faded out over the years but when it was fresh it was unbelievable. Where does the dye disappear to???

Here's one of Byron's history examples: http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970RTSDuster.htm
 
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