rotisserie

DATEC

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I'm looking into possibly getting a rotisserie and came across this new design The Lift System, "Body lift rotisserie" from FrameOff.

Looks like it might be more cconvenient at removing bodies and rotating all in one but have never seen one like it and was wondering what you guys thought about it and if you have ever seen one like it?

I'm wondering if it would be stable and safe while lifting? I don't see a weight rating and would think it would be less while lifting but I don't know and thought I would ask you guys first.
 
Once the body is on it in the "tilt" position how does it turn 90' to the rotisserie position?
 
have to lift from the ends. looks good but wow 3500 and no hydraulics .. i'm way too cheap for that. i built mine for about 200 in steel. casters are what is high and you cant put too good of a caster on them . i went metal.
 
shine said:
have to lift from the ends. looks good but wow 3500 and no hydraulics .. i'm way too cheap for that. i built mine for about 200 in steel. casters are what is high and you cant put too good of a caster on them . i went metal.
I was looking at the Body Lift one for $1795 it lifts twin 8ton rams from the side like a fork lift and rotates after it it lifted, somehow by the cartoon video. Anyhow I tried to call them today and neither number works the 866 number "Do Not Call" I don't know what it is but it has a recording telling you you won something and to push # and if you don't another voice comes on offering you something else and to press another number this went on for a couple times with differant offers. I hung up thinking great now they CID'ed my number and who nows what else. So please don't bother calling it. They must be out of business. It looked like a cool design though. Thanks guys for the replys.
 
Like Shine said you could build one for a lot less and have money left to do other things with. I built mine for around $400 total. Google auto rotisserie plans and you'll find a lot of info and plans on building one.
 
Before designing and building my own, I had looked at quite a few online, including autotwirler, roto 2000, and others. I had seen one of the "manufactured" ones up close and personal with a 57 Chevy on it, I think the steel was made of 1/8" thick tubing, which made for a less than snug fit on the pieces that slid together, enough so that the body support arms were sagging considerably. Perhaps the manner in which the car was bolted up could have contributed, but in order to not have that problem on mine, and to satisfy my anal retentive nature of overbuilding things (especially in putting someone else's vehicle on it), I made it with 1/4" thick square tubing (actually showed up as .22 wall thickness) which provided a nice snug fit. The downside to this design (besides the additional weight) is the welded seam on the inside must be removed for the pieces that slide together, unless you can find "seamless" tubing. Mine was also designed highly adjustable to allow flexibility for many different types of cars.

Some of the features I considered:

Bottle jacks....I had plans to use two engine hoists to remove the body (already had them) so I saw no need for the added expense of bottle jacks on the rotisserie to lift a car off a frame or lift the pivot to find CG. May be a "nice to have", but would have been redundant with the hoists I already had.


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Standoffs....One feature to consider would be to weld gusseted 1/2" inside dia pipe to the support arms, as shown in the above picture, in order to "stand off" the car from the support arms and offer a virtually unobstructed area that is normally blocked by the support arm. Makes for easier sandblasting, painting , etc, without having to come back and repeat a process later.

D-ring tie downs (as shown in above picture)....Another nice option so you can easily secure for transport to a media blaster. You'll get a much better job done of stripping a car if they can more readily get to everything standing up, as seen here on the return trip:

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For the plans:

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The short "third leg" caster on the right in the next picture was made to allow a partial breakdown of the pieces, and still be able to roll it around the shop without something getting away from you. With all the weight here, it does tend to take off pretty quickly.


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Notice in the next picture, the pivot bracket on the right, the hole for the hitch pin is offset 1" from the pivot centerline. Where the adjustments in the adjoining piece have three inch spacing between holes (following picture), this offset will allow even more fine tune adjustment for CG with a mere 180 degree rotation.


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The standoffs in the next pictures did not get dimensioned as they were sized to fit some grade 8 bolts I had in stock. I believe they were about 5 or 5-1/2 inches tall, but size to the hardware you have readily available.


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The downside to the "seamed" tubing, is that in order to slide within one another in such a "snug configuration", this weld needed to be ground smooth. In order to perform this function, a piece of .250 dia rod was welded onto a cutoff wheel arbor. I surprised myself by getting it right the first time, no wobble at all! Not shown is the auxiliary manuevering device. Basically go to your local hadware store and look for 1/4" id bearing pulleys (hint...sliding door hardware), so you can slide the pulley onto the shaft to be able to apply pressure/guidance to the cutoff wheel inside the tube. Not having this function, you hand will get warm quickly, even with gloves.


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The set screws were all 3/4-10 bolts, and just incase anything slips, the ends of all the "sliders" had a fail safe in a 3/4 dia hitch pin. Looking at the pivot area, it was a bit looser than I intended, so the outer pipe was sliced lengthwise and tweaked with a dead blow hammer and welded back together. For rotational stabilization, one end uses a hitch pin, with the inner tube having holes drilled at 90* increments. This will allow you to pin the rotisserie in any position in 90* increments. For any oddball angles needed, the opposite end has a 3/4-10 set screw. Also not shown on the drawings, holes were drilled and tapped for grease zserks.

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Overkill? You betcha. And with steel sold by the pound, more expensive. Would thinner walled tubing work? Sure it would. And I think strategic placement of the "setscrews" could miinimize any sagging issues on the support arms, and the steel would be much cheaper using 1/8 or 3/16 wall thickness.


I was able to dial in the CG where it will stay in any position you stop at. It also spins effortlessly using one hand once you get the CG set, so worth the extra effort.


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Here is a link that includes pictures and plans:

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/rmccartney/Rotisserie Fabrication/?start=all
 
I have an older autotwirler and it's made out of .25 steel tubing, a friend has a newer one that I also often use and it is made out of 11 guage I think but larger 4" tubing. MP&C, cool tip on the grinding setup! What most people do in that situation is grind a line down the male section of tubing for clearance which is easy but weakens the tube some. I've worked with another design years ago that didn't have any lifting capability and it was a real PITA mounting and dismounting the car without a hoist. Seen another homemade design that had a chevy flexplate welded on and a a hand crank and starter sized gear to rotate the car-this worked really well especially if the tub is mounted with the weight not centered. Sand sure collects in the pivot heads during blasting and I'd like to find a cure for that at some point. The grease fitting helps I bet!
 
i built mine with 1/4 in tube also. i figured it would get a lot of use in the blast booth. downside is it is heavy as all get out . hard to move around by myself. the main runners are the heaviest part and i intend to replace with lighter stuff . i built it to act as a frame . corvette do not do well suspended from the ends. i have multiple mounts for different bodies .rotisserie.jpg

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If there was one thing I would change about my rotisserie, it would be to have one set of casters be able to lock in one position. Since all four pivot, it constantly tries to crash into things if one guy wants to move it. Now it's become one of those things that is on the "to do" list but never gets done...
 
DATEC;n73668 said:
I'm looking into possibly getting a rotisserie and came across this new design The Lift System, "Body lift rotisserie" from FrameOff.

Looks like it might be more cconvenient at removing bodies and rotating all in one but have never seen one like it and was wondering what you guys thought about it and if you have ever seen one like it?

I'm wondering if it would be stable and safe while lifting? I don't see a weight rating and would think it would be less while lifting but I don't know and thought I would ask you guys first.


Says it will lift 3000 #
 
If you go to the site and open the 2nd tab at the top marked "lift systems" you will see the one I was referring too for $1795 and a cartoon video of it working. But they must be out of business anyhow but looks sweet. I wonder if it would be safe having a pivot point on it with that much weight on it?

MP&C & Shine thank you for those pics I'm thinking I just might build one but like you guys I over build things and it will probably weigh 6k buy the time I get
done :) . I just don't know when to say, that's reinforced enough or that tubeing is heavy enough.

I have a little time before I will need something to get this loaded truck cab on the frame. I want to swap the parts as they are taken out and then set the new cab on without damaging it and thought this design would work. I also don't know how much a full standard truck cab weighs and don't really want to rent a off road fork truck or skid steer with forks to do the transfer. I know it will also be nose heavy as the empty replacement cab was when I lifted it off the trailer with a cable wench tied to a large tree branch but mounting it that way would not be a good idea.
 
I built something simular, mines made to be pulled from one garage to another by my wifes tractor. I have the new cab on it and it is painted along with the doors and fenders. The hood and new lower core support getting done now. Once I get the hood and core support done I will begin the parts swap from cab to cab and figured I would then place the full cab on the new frame after I swap the motor and trans. In thinking mabey what I really need is an overhead crane to lift it straight up and slide the frame under it, would you think that would be better for what I need to do?

I found the video of the rotisserie on youtube.
 
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