Ok, so I’ve been experimenting with Wandabase for the first time. On two different occasions, I’ve had my local jobber mix 8oz of the same formula for spraying out a few tests. Both times, the color was spot on between the two different 8oz preps. I had the store use their camera on an old panel to get a color match and the software’s best match was an Isuzu factory color. After deciding this was the color I wanted, I had the jobber mix up 5Qts. After spraying the underside of the deck lid, the color just didn’t look the same. After double checking the formula printed on the labels, I noticed that the batch that didn’t look right (lighter, less blue) has less (g/oz) 2655 toner, and has an additional toner (2624, Transparent…) that isn’t in the first two batches I tested. I’m hoping that someone might be able to tell me if these discrepancies are enough to account for the difference I’m seeing. I plan to go back and discuss with my jobber when they open on Monday, but this is driving me crazy.
Anyone here mixing Wanda? (Or anyone familiar with basecoat formulas)
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Chris_Hamilton
Trying to be the best me, I can be
The camera is never spot on accurate. Usually within a few shades but that's about as accurate as it gets. You can use the camera 2 different times on the same panel and get different results.
If your earlier tests were spot on why did you not go with that? In the first pic, looking at the formulas, on the right is quite a bit different than the left. The one on the right has a lot more metallic in it along with less blue. It is most definitely not the same color. It's not 5 quarts either, according to the label.
If your earlier tests were spot on why did you not go with that? In the first pic, looking at the formulas, on the right is quite a bit different than the left. The one on the right has a lot more metallic in it along with less blue. It is most definitely not the same color. It's not 5 quarts either, according to the label.
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Thanks Chris. The camera was used on a panel that had the color I was trying to “match”. I agree that the camera is never spot on but was ok with a close match since this is an overall job. Based on the “best match formula” I had my jobber mix 8oz of that color/code on two different occasions so I could see how I liked the color and how the Wanda basecoat sprayed. I was happy with it, so called and had the jobber mix another 5 QTS for the project. I only shared the QT can because the formula and toner ratios for the GAL are the same. However, once I observed that the color seemed to be off, I then noticed that the formulas on the QT/GAL can are slightly different than the 2x8oz they previously mixed for me. Same paint code, but I’m guessing different variation. I’m mad at myself for not checking the mixing labels before leaving the store.
Jim C
Oldtimer
yes that is not the same formula at all. the code may be correct so its probably a variant. when you are in the wand software and you look up the code, the std color is given in alist with all the other variants and it will tell you if it coarser, finer, darker, lighter, greener, etc. they probably didnt click on the std color. they just clicked any one in the list and thats what you got.
Yeah, that’s what I’m suspecting. This car was painted ‘91 GM Bahama Blue in 1996 using Chromabase, and DuPont has 12 different formula variations. I couldn’t swallow $1200 a gallon for Chroma, so tried to find a close match in Wanda (the standard Bahama blue code wasn’t close). I looked closer at the labels this morning, and the camera match is listed as “Caprice Blue Bank Search”, the new batch is listed as “Caprice blue market color”. Looks like the jobber incorrectly mixed the standard variation. D’oh!
Thanks Dutchman! I got a gallon can and a quart can. The toners/ratio’s are the same between the GAL and QT cans. The first mix was based on a camera scan and the software pulled up ISU836 (“bank search”) as the best match. Must be a variation I guess. At any rate, the new mix looked a lot closer to the first mix after hitting it with Euro clear. Not exact, but it’s closer that I originally thought. Close enough to not really worry about.