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Clint Burnett

What would the SPI white basecoat be equivalent to in a GM paint code? Does anyone have any pictures they can post of a vehicle painted with the white base? Thanks,
 
there isnt any oem color for any manufacturer that would be close. its pure white. no car is painted in pure white. there is always a few other pigments added to dirty it up a little so that it covers well. not to mention a pure white car would be so white it would look a little odd.
 
Jim C,
Thanks for your reply. This answered my question in a round about way.
SPI - can you tint to match a factory white?
 
you can tint the spi base. it doesnt take much to make a big change in white. most oem whites will have a touch of black, yellow and red oxide in them. either one, two or a combo of all 3.
 
Jim C said:
you can tint the spi base. it doesnt take much to make a big change in white. most oem whites will have a touch of black, yellow and red oxide in them. either one, two or a combo of all 3.
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Oh come on Jim! It's just white. How tough can that be to match? said every customer that doesn't paint.
 
white is only white when something else white is not around it.

I thought most of them tint with pearl rather than a color. That gives you the blue. purple, yellow and green that completely make it look like 6 different colors at the same time.
 
Clint im currently painting my Dodge Truck which was Dodge Bright White GW7 with SPI White. Ill post pics when Im laying the base down.
 
Just as a point of reference, here is one of my own Standox formulas for GM WA8624 Olympic White:

High Coverage White.....728.0g
Weak Black .......................... 52.2g
Ochre ....................................... 2.2g
Red Oxide ............................... 0.4g

A formula like this from a quality base coat would be a decent starting point for making your own white out of SPI white, although if I was doing that with Olympic White, I would probably find a way to use strong black instead of weak black to keep the non-SPI stuff to a minimum.
 
I put Toyota super white over SPI white epoxy once. The white epoxy made the superwhite look dirty. I wished I could have left it in epoxy but it was a sign that was going to be outside.
 
elwood said:
I put Toyota super white over SPI white epoxy once. The white epoxy made the superwhite look dirty. I wished I could have left it in epoxy but it was a sign that was going to be outside.
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Forgive me for saying so, but for that to be true, your Super White was a low coverage formula, not enough coats were applied, or both. SPI White epoxy has been very helpful for us to reduce the amount of basecoat required on white colors by at least one coat.
 
Jim C said:
there isnt any oem color for any manufacturer that would be close. its pure white. no car is painted in pure white. there is always a few other pigments added to dirty it up a little so that it covers well. not to mention a pure white car would be so white it would look a little odd.
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Jim are you saying the SPI White is too white? Hypothetical, if I had a customer that wanted a brite white repaint (not needing to match any OEM) it would be too white and need to be tinted? Just curious as I have never used the SPI White.
 
crashtech said:
Forgive me for saying so, but for that to be true, your Super White was a low coverage formula, not enough coats were applied, or both. SPI White epoxy has been very helpful for us to reduce the amount of basecoat required on white colors by at least one coat.
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Coverage seemed ok. I am not sure about formula being weak. I don't remember what was in it. Used it to repair Camry. It was just that the epoxy was so much whiter than the paint. Without paint being next to epoxy paint seemed to be a normal white. I love the white epoxy tho. I've used it a lot. I have no complaints at all.
 
I think I misread your post! I read that the use of the epoxy under the white made the Super White job appear dirty, but that is clearly not what you meant.
 
Chris_Hamilton said:
Jim are you saying the SPI White is too white? Hypothetical, if I had a customer that wanted a brite white repaint (not needing to match any OEM) it would be too white and need to be tinted? Just curious as I have never used the SPI White.
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well the spi white as well as most straight whites right off a mixing rack are too white to match any oem color. now you can certainly paint something using pure white. i have done it a ton of times but i can tell you if you did your average car in spi pure white and had 10 people look at it, i bet 9 of them would say....damn thats a white car..lol.
 
Yeah, I did a custom many years ago with a pure white base and a lavender/blue pearl that in the end I thought was pretty blinding and not all that appealing, but the owner approved of the choice and seemed to like it. Won best paint in a local show fwiw, but I did not like it and would not repeat it.
 
Can I tint SPI pure white base to make Chrysler cool vanilla pwg/xwg?
 
So I'm about three weeks away from painting my '62 Nova. I have Mercedes white picked out because of how bright white it is. Planned on using SPI Universal Clear. I'm not a professional painter by any stretch but from what I've learned the cleaner brighter whites have a blueish hue to them. My question is, should I consider SPI white? All I want is about the brightest white I can find. I'm not matching any OEM color just want a bright white. Any way I can get a sample of the color either on a spray out card or otherwise?

Thanks in advance,

Andy from STL
 
Spi white has no colors added, all mixing colors have colors added, so spi is pure white no one can match.
 
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