Prospray vs Deltron ?

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Question for old pros with paint. How would you compare Deltron vs Prospray for base coat teal metallic? I was told Prospray was equivalent and even preferred by some over Deltron. The Prospray price is much easier to take.
 
DBC was always a gummier base to me, you could let it sit for hours and it would still be gummy, so you couldn't work out flaws as easy.. It's quite a bit more expensive. I honestly can't say I prefer anything dbc does over prospray.. It's a decent base and color match was pretty good too. I haven't used it in like 5 years though. I would assume something would have changed by now.
 
The Prospray jobber in SLC tattled on me to the S-W rep and spoiled my chance to ever try it. I use Standox Basislack now.
 
If your speaking of DBC 2000 Deltron, I think you will find the Prospray basecoat is as good, if not better. I have sprayed lots of DBC over the past 20 years, and I don't see any reason not to say the prospray isn't as good, if not better. These big companies like PPG charge way too much for their products, and half the time, they are no better than anyone elses. Bigger name=bigger price.
 
Been wanting to paint my 49 3800 in either prospray or wanda (my local jobber sells wanda). The color (original factory color) is a PPG. PPG Color Match said they could provide paint code, but only to a PPG jobber. I want it to be spot on, but not really super excited about spending extra money on PPG DBC. Can prospray or wanda match up a PPG color by name only. Remember, its a 1949 paint color.
 
I would think that you could get that mixed by any paint company regardless of who was the original paint company for the automaker. Chad on here might be able to help you. What color are you looking for? I've seen color chips back to the 1940s.
 
elwood said:
I would think that you could get that mixed by any paint company regardless of who was the original paint company for the automaker. Chad on here might be able to help you. What color are you looking for? I've seen color chips back to the 1940s.
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What's tough with older colors is that formulas are not typically available. we can usually create a match on a older color as long as we can get a sample of something to match.. This is where it gets difficult, a lot of people can't get their hands on something that they feel is the right color. You can look at a computer screen and see 100's of variations of the same color, which is nearly impossible to match. Color chips are a good place to start, we create a lot of colors based off of a paint chip..
 
Thank you for that explanation. I guess that explains why some companies guard their formulas the way they do on old colors.
 
What about buying a small quantity of the PPG, spaying a test panel, and using it to match to the Prospray?
 
Chad.S said:
What's tough with older colors is that formulas are not typically available. we can usually create a match on a older color as long as we can get a sample of something to match.. This is where it gets difficult, a lot of people can't get their hands on something that they feel is the right color. You can look at a computer screen and see 100's of variations of the same color, which is nearly impossible to match. Color chips are a good place to start, we create a lot of colors based off of a paint chip..
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Thing Chad is leaving out is that another problem a lot of you guys who are hobbyists are going to run into if you don't have an exact color whether it's a code or chip is that 90% of your jobbers will have no idea how to alter a color. All they know to do is read the formula and mix the formula. Tinting/altering a formula is kind of a dark art these days very few painters or jobbers can take a formula and tweak it to a different shade like they used to.
 
What PPG calls the original formula will be an approximation anyway. An original sample is required to achieve anything like a real match. If a local jobber won't do that, a local body shop might, if the painter is not too swamped and likes color research. Time is money, though.
 
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