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#2
Just saw this in a magazine, oil vapors will go right through an m60
And any water trap including desiccant.
Not sure price but i would guess under 100 dollars.
I have the m60 inline after the desiccant filter and it seems to do fine. Please give us the ultimate setup for clean air. I’m open for change. Thanks
 

Barry

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#5
This is not an m60.

Yes people do use tolet paaper in the m60 as had a call friday as paper was in paint job.
 

Barry

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#9
I have the DAD-500 also. Does the oil coalescing filter on it do the same job as the MotorGuard M-C100 (remove oil vapors)?
I would say the answer is yes but all the ones I have ever seen have a nylon type filter and i slosh around in urethane reducer and use again.
This one looks like you will be buying a new filter each time but I have not seen one in person.
 
#11
I don't think oil coalescing filters remove oil vapor, that's why the m-c100's have activated charcoal. If you have proper water seperator/oil coalescing/desiccant or refrigerated air dryer before it, the element should last 6 months.

I wouldn't use the m-c100 as the only filter or even without at least a water seperator before it, the filter will get saturated with water too quickly, and their activated carbon filters aren't the cheapest thing to replace. Can't throw a toilet paper roll in there, would defeat the purpose.
 

jlcustomz

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#12
Something funny I saw on a commercial painting forum. someone having trouble with fish eyes was told by a friend to quit using his 2 cycle blower to clean out his shop.:rolleyes:
 

Barry

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#13
I don't think oil coalescing filters remove oil vapor, that's why the m-c100's have activated charcoal. If you have proper water seperator/oil coalescing/desiccant or refrigerated air dryer before it, the element should last 6 months.

I wouldn't use the m-c100 as the only filter or even without at least a water seperator before it, the filter will get saturated with water too quickly, and their activated carbon filters aren't the cheapest thing to replace. Can't throw a toilet paper roll in there, would defeat the purpose.
All I'm familiar with are nylon or similar type materials they and yes they do remove oil vapors, it not they are a waste of money.
Charcoal type I don't know as new to me.

Also I just checked 2 of my 3 DAD-500s and you are right the first strainer is the water as bronze than the oil-C and than the big tank.
We also have water traps 50 to 100 feet down line before the air gets to the DAD's.
We change desiccant about every two months and clean the oil trap about once a year.
 
#14
if you use the toilet paper in the m60 be sure to remove it when your done spraying. dont leave it in there. it will corrode the inside of the filer housing.
 
#15
https://www.spxflow.com/en/hankison/pd-mp-ngf-series/

https://www.spxflow.com/en/hankison/pd-mp-hf-series/

I always recommend these as my "go to" brand. The choice of filters and with the optional indicator on the unit you can see if the filter needs serviced make these a good choice IMO. There are other options and brands that can do a good job of removing air supply issues but most don't have an indicator to take the guess work out of whether the filter is working or not.
You always want to place your filters with the largest to finest allowing things to pass thru and progressively place finer filtration units until you arrive at the oil vaper filter as your last filter and that should be placed at the painting area along with a fine filter placed just before and after that to catch issues from the piping (if you really want to be anal about clean air), that is the most important area that needs vapor filtration. There is nothing wrong having it all placed at the begining of your air supply if you want it's just a waste to control the vapor there IMO.
If you are a one man band, working in your garage shop the idea is still the same as a full blown Pro shop but you can get away with not having as many filters in place because you won't be using near as much air as them so your filtration will last longer before you need to service it, but you still should have vaper filtration when painting.
The one thing to you need to watch for is the CFM rating and any pressure loss of your filtration to make sure your not choking down your air supply. Filters can lower the air pressure and if you have more then one in your line you need to allow for that.
 
#16
Something funny I saw on a commercial painting forum. someone having trouble with fish eyes was told by a friend to quit using his 2 cycle blower to clean out his shop.:rolleyes:
Blow my shop out with a Stihl leaf blower on a regular basis, also work on my dirt bike in the shop from time to time.. I've never had a issue from 2-strokes.
 

Barry

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#18
if you use the toilet paper in the m60 be sure to remove it when your done spraying. dont leave it in there. it will corrode the inside of the filer housing.
OK lets get a toilet paper edumacation!! LOL
Did you know there are two types or was a few years back, one is for septic tanks that is made to break down faster, yes this was true but maybe they are all the same now as I'm sure the city's wanted the stuff they got to break down faster.
I do get a call every so often where someone will ask is the stuff showing up in their paint from the toilet paper.
 
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