Jescar finishing products

ksungela

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I've been dreading cutting and buffing the 53 truck I've been painting. Thanks to Jim C and others for sharing their experiences using Eagle products, the cutting process has become less time consuming for me, but I was still looking for something better. I had some Menzerna 400 on the shelf and gave them a call asking form some product recommendations. After talking shop for a short time with Jeff at Menzerna-USA, he introduced me to a new product line they are marketing called Jescar. I guess they are not owned by Menzerna and can sell whatever they want. Jeff has been in the industry a while and developed the full product line which he has manufactured specifically for the Jescar line.

He sent me some same bottles of their Correction Compound 1500 and Micro Finishing Polish 3000 and recommended using Lake Country's Wool/foam purple pad https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001328H40/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with the CC 1500 and a white or black foam pad (I used Lake country CCS black pad) with MFP 3000. I used a 25+ year old Makita 9207spc rotary for both at 1500 rpm.

Here's a fender I did. I used a 3m DA sander and Eagle Super-Tack Yellow film discs 1000 grit https://eagleguys.com/products/eagle-778-1000-6-inch-super-tack-yellow-film-discs to remove the orange peel followed by eagle Super-tack Tolex discs used wet. Here's what the result looked like.

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I then used the Jescar CC1500 (which should remove at least 1500 grit scratches) using the purple pad. I applied the polish to the pad (no water or pad conditioner) and buffed about 1/3 of the fender at a time, then reapplied compound and made second pass. You might be able to skip the second application if you went over the panel enough with the Tolex. I haven't tried that yet.
Here are the results. Very impressive IMO.
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Both products stay "greasy" on the panel and don't dry out like the Chemical Guys V compounds.
I did a test on a panel that had different sections sanded to incremental grits using yellow film (1000), Tolex (1500), Buflex green, and Buflex black. I used the process above and compared it to using an orange pad and CG V32 on the same panel and grits. The Jescar compound removed the scratches much faster. Using the Jescar compound on the Tolex section was the most efficient process IMO. There was no benefit to doing the Buflex green or black step.

Jescar is looking for feedback on their products, so they may throw you some samples if are willing to report your opinions back to them. jescarfinishing.com
I'd be curious to know what you guys that have been doing this a while think of the CC1500 and micro polish 3000.

Hope this help someone and saves you some time.
Ken
 
Your results certainly are impressive but you surprised me when you said the Jescar did not dry out like the Chemical Guys. One of the things I liked about the Chemical Guy's compounds was it seemed they did not dry out like other brands. I have always used pad conditioner with them which may explain why I feel like I do.

My intent is not to disagree with you about the Jescar. Only to express my surprise at your observation.

John
 
Your results certainly are impressive but you surprised me when you said the Jescar did not dry out like the Chemical Guys. One of the things I liked about the Chemical Guy's compounds was it seemed they did not dry out like other brands. I have always used pad conditioner with them which may explain why I feel like I do.

My intent is not to disagree with you about the Jescar. Only to express my surprise at your observation.

John

The Jescar compound has a long working time and very little dusting, it’s a product where less is more if you know what I mean. I tried it and it did short work of the buflex green sanding discs, I didn’t want to test it on 1500 EAGLE dry sanding on a dark color.

The Micro Finishing Polish with a Lake Country HO Orange pad was working pretty good until I tried to wipe it off, it was very hard to do on some spots, almost as if the product was sticking to the clear. This particular car was Euro 5100 that cured overnight, I’m not sure what speed of activator was used as I didn’t get to paint it, I was only helping a body shop with buffing the hood, maybe the clear was a bit fresh still.

I had used the Micro Finishing Polish on other jobs with older Universal clear and it worked just fine as expected, very easy to wipe off.

Overall is a line of products worth trying out.
 
What is your method of sanding, like say how many passes roughly on the 1500? Ive been struggling on my initial polishing cuts because of poor technique on the 1500 or tolex grit step, Im trying to gather all the info I can as I dont have much of a baseline. If I can speed things up that would be huge, and only doing 2 sanding steps would be a welcome in addition to being able to polish out the sanding scratches quicker.

I might try some of their CC1500, Ive used and have on hand V32, Sonax CutMax, and Menzerna 300, so I have a good bunch to compare to.
 
The micro polish 3000 is greasy compared to the CC1500 and GC V compound. The Cc1500, maybe not that big of a difference.
The fender above has U.C. on it. Last painted at least 6 weeks ago before I cut and buffed.
How long with the tolex used wet is tough to quantify. I keep it moving so I guess I pass over the same spot at least 10 times. I wouldn't start counting until I see I'm making white sludge. The longer the better provided you have enough clear coat buildup. If you compound and still see scratches, its difficult to go back over the panel with Tolex wet because the tolex loads up with whatever is left over on the panel. I've tried cleaning the panel with 700-1, but the Tolex still loads up. I would just keep going over the panel with CC1500.
Maybe divide a panel up into 3 sections and go over it with a varying number of passes using Tolex, then buff all three sections and see how it looks.
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Good info, thanks for sharing. I'm roughly half of the passes on the Tolex. This gives me a better idea where I probably need to work toward.
 
How do you compare the Jescar CC1500 to menzerna 400 and how much are the samples of the jescar
 
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