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[Treeslayer]

It's a good word. Fits the situation perfectly IMO.

I know you don't think this Dave, but in case someone thinks I'm trying to sound superior using certain words, I'm not. But I'm also not going to apologize for my love of reading and that I have a good vocabulary.

im sitting here chuckling........ im pretty big into local history and genealogy, always helping out with folks on different groups finding info. like you Chris, i read a lot, and a lot of old documents, so i do have quite a vocabulary. i dont use it in my speech though for the reason you just stated.
between my accent and my appearance, most would consider me a smart ass for using that vernacular. so many folks iv had correspondence with online, if they meet me the first reaction is "your not him" lol, it never gets old.

 

[clubairth]

Well I appreciate guys like Chris who state the facts regardless. Yes he can be a bit rough and I have been on the receiving end myself. But he always speaks as a guy who actually knows what he's talking about. Keep it up!

All the video guys are hit or miss at best because youtube is a moron web site. The lowest common denominator gets the most views. No barrier to entry and zero fact checking. It's the land of the "useful idiots" as is all social media.
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[Chris_Hamilton]

between my accent and my appearance, most would consider me a smart ass for using that vernacular.

I don't try, it just comes naturally when I write. I'm much better at communicating through the written word than I am speaking. I have so many thoughts racing through my head when trying to communicate something verbally that I'll get tongue tied often. Writing something is easier for me.

 

[Chris_Hamilton]

Yes he can be a bit rough and I have been on the receiving end myself.

Never is my intent. Sorry if I was that way with you.

Keep in mind that I'm old enough (53) to have come up in a different era really. Old guys i worked with could give two shits about someone's feelings. They told it like it was. Blue Collar guys in general are that way. Work at a Shop and you quickly learn not to be sensitive as things get pretty rough at some places.

There was a guy at one Shop I worked at. Owned by the crazy Italian I've talked about before. This guy was slow. Real slow and not very good either. We had a whole Shop bonus on the line one year. $5000 per man in 1996 dollars. This guy was killing us as he was slow enough that we were falling behind the goal for the year. Guys would ride him telling him to speed up etc. I felt sorry for him but he misrepresented himself when he got hired. He just wasn't up to it. Things escalated more and more over the course of a couple of weeks.

Several of the older guys got together and did something that was both funny and cruel. It was June and one Monday the slow guy came into work to find a huge pile of grass clippings (so slow its like watching grass grow, was the message) all over his box and work area. He was pissed but cleaned them up and went to work. Next morning the same thing. This went on all week. On Friday afternoon he had quit. Like I said it was cruel but he was costing us all and the older guys had had enough.
Don't know if that would go over the same today.

 

[OJ86]

There is definitely a lot of information on youtube that is great for teaching/learning. With painting I feel there is just only so much information you can talk about so a lot of these "paint" channels just get repetitive. Then once they get a sponsor or a company(usually Chinese) sending them products to use it just gets pushed aside by me.

Paint society, the guy had a Temu moment where all he was pushing was products from Temu. It was kinda funny actually to watch someone slowly sell out.

 

[OJ86]

Come to think of it, the only real channel I watch regularly is Cleetus mcfarland. I just love the content they have. Been watching that channel for probably the better of 7 or 8 years.

 

[clubairth]

Chris no apologies needed or wanted. I was NOT criticizing you. I was pointing out that facts trump everything else. I know that when you post it is from that stand point and I appreciate it.
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[Chris_Hamilton]

Come to think of it, the only real channel I watch regularly is Cleetus mcfarland. I just love the content they have. Been watching that channel for probably the better of 7 or 8 years.

That guy is making serious coin on youtube doing what he does. The Whistlin Diesel guy as well. Google search of WD indicates he makes over 4 million a year just from the youtube channel!

 

[OJ86]

That guy is making serious coin on youtube doing what he does. The Whistlin Diesel guy as well.

I dont really watch Whistlin anymore. I relate more to the cleetus crew and what they do more and I just enjoy the entertainment. No real drama and they mix up the content quite a bit.

 

[Treeslayer]

I don't try, it just comes naturally when I write. I'm much better at communicating through the written word than I am speaking. I have so many thoughts racing through my head when trying to communicate something verbally that I'll get tongue tied often. Writing something is easier for me.

same here man. idk why but i will forget the words before they come out of my mouth. names especially, ill forget the person's name in ten seconds. i seem to be able to type the words and names with no trouble..........usually.

 

[Treeslayer]

Never is my intent. Sorry if I was that way with you.

Keep in mind that I'm old enough (53) to have come up in a different era really. Old guys i worked with could give two shits about someone's feelings. They told it like it was. Blue Collar guys in general are that way. Work at a Shop and you quickly learn not to be sensitive as things get pretty rough at some places.

There was a guy at one Shop I worked at. Owned by the crazy Italian I've talked about before. This guy was slow. Real slow and not very good either. We had a whole Shop bonus on the line one year. $5000 per man in 1996 dollars. This guy was killing us as he was slow enough that we were falling behind the goal for the year. Guys would ride him telling him to speed up etc. I felt sorry for him but he misrepresented himself when he got hired. He just wasn't up to it. Things escalated more and more over the course of a couple of weeks.

Several of the older guys got together and did something that was both funny and cruel. It was June and one Monday the slow guy came into work to find a huge pile of grass clippings (so slow its like watching grass grow, was the message) all over his box and work area. He was pissed but cleaned them up and went to work. Next morning the same thing. This went on all week. On Friday afternoon he had quit. Like I said it was cruel but he was costing us all and the older guys had had enough.
Don't know if that would go over the same today.

i suspect we came up similarly, but for me it was loggers, farmers, truckers and watermen. they would call ya a p***y quick and a dumbass. we learned to not get hurt feelings and take it as lessons. and thats exactly what they were usually, lessons. while those old heads were tough as hell, they were polite when the time called for it. opening doors for women, never cursing in front of women and children, always looking out for folks. i think we should strive to emulate them. i do, it pays most of the time, but i am not around very modern humanity.

 

[Chris_Hamilton]

I remember hearing a while back( i think directly from the show) that Graveyard Cars, used to literally paint their cars twice...bc/cc twice.....The first round was to see how it would look..Then, whatever prep they did, and re base and clear...

I'll call BS on that too. Unless they are rank amateurs they would know how to block. Trust me after just a couple of years of doing this you know what it's going to look like.

Putting aside my distaste for that Show, here's the likely reason they said that. Most likely they painted something, noticed something wrong, mixed the wrong color, whatever, and to cover themselves they told the customer that was the procedure (what you outlined). So the customer wouldnt lose confidence in them. And they knew the customer wouldn't know any better.

Only thing that makes any sense to me as doing it the way outlined eats up time, materials,. and puts unnecessary mils on the car increasing the likelihood of chipping and other issues. Literally nobody does that because there is no benefit to it.

And with high end work never. An experienced guy doesn't need "to see what it's going to look like". Only a newb would think that way.

 

[Aggrofish]

There is definitely a lot of information on youtube that is great for teaching/learning. With painting I feel there is just only so much information you can talk about so a lot of these "paint" channels just get repetitive. Then once they get a sponsor or a company(usually Chinese) sending them products to use it just gets pushed aside by me.

Paint society, the guy had a Temu moment where all he was pushing was products from Temu. It was kinda funny actually to watch someone slowly sell out.

I’m probably learning all the wrong stuff but I like Sylvester customs channel and that jap hands kid. I think he does some cool work.

 

[OJ86]

Those are both great sources for information.