Help! Ppg vm4102 emberglo pearl cross reference

Jakescc

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Hi all does anyone here know of a cross reference I could use for the emberglo pearl ppg vm4102 since its obsolete from ppg.
Looking to match a Harley paint job and cannot find the pearl anywhere or color code for the basecoat orange. Its from a 2012 Harley limited.
Thank you.
 

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Is is custom work over the factory orange? Vibrance was a custom paint line which will make matching it next to impossible even if it was sprayed by Harley. Even if you had the pearl you would have to do a lot of testing to get the mix and amount of coats right.

Most motorcycle manufacturers keep the paint codes as proprietary so they can sell you whatever crappy paint they sell at the dealership or buy a new pre-painted part. Harley is the worst for that. That being said matching the orange won't be that hard. Local Paint Jobber should have the Color camera to take a picture of and analyze the color for the closest match in their library. All the majors like PPG, Axalta, BASF, have this camera.
As for the pearl I would first check with PPG and ask them if they have any recommendations on what to substitute the Vibrance pearl with. Quite possibly they have a match or substitute in their newer custom paint line. Best way to do this is go to the local PPG Jobber and ask them for the contact info for the area PPG Technical Rep. Don't ask the Jobbers themselves as they will have no clue usually. Get the area tech rep's info.

If they can't give you any info you may want to inform your customer that you would have to redo all the pearl on the bike.

Maybe Jim C can tell you something different. He does a lot of motorcyle and custom paint work, more than myself by far.
 
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Is is custom work over the factory orange? Vibrance was a custom paint line which will make matching it next to impossible even if it was sprayed by Harley. Even if you had the pearl you would have to do a lot of testing to get the mix and amount of coats right.

Most motorcycle manufacturers keep the paint codes as proprietary so they can sell you whatever crappy paint they sell at the dealership or buy a new pre-painted part. Harley is the worst for that. That being said matching the orange won't be that hard. Local Paint Jobber should have the Color camera to take a picture of and analyze the color for the closest match in their library. All the majors like PPG, Axalta, BASF, have this camera.
As for the pearl I would first check with PPG and ask them if they have any recommendations on what to substitute the Vibrance pearl with. Quite possibly they have a match or substitute in their newer custom paint line. Best way to do this is go to the local PPG Jobber and ask them for the contact info for the area PPG Technical Rep. Don't ask the Jobbers themselves as they will have no clue usually. Get the area tech rep's info.

If they can't give you any info you may want to inform your customer that you would have to redo all the pearl on the bike.

Maybe Jim C can tell you something different. He does a lot of motorcyle and custom paint work, more than myself by far.
Thank you. I ended up talking to my neighbor who hasn't been painting Harleys for a really long time. He had all the right colors in his cabinet and the old pearl i needed. Thanks again
 
Look up a man named Bruce Kennedy at BK Customs in Petersburg Virginia. The pearl you are looking for is a PPG Vibrance pearl called EmberGlo. As you said, it is obsolete and no longer being produced. I searched for an answer to the paint color on my bike for 6 months before finally stumbling upon Bruce while I was on a bike trip. He also has the correct paint code for the orange base as he just painted my tank last month. There is also a guy on Ebay selling the pearl for $100 a gram, which was the best source and price I could find for it.
 
I appreciate all help. Finally got my hands on brand new bottle of ppg vm4102 pearl just for future use.
 

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