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Basic repaint Questions

#1
Hi everyone. I'm new here and I'm a total beginner to autobody repair and autobody painting. Currently I have a 2004 Crown Victoria that I bought for really cheap and now I'm in the process of restoring it.

I'm a hands on type of guy and decided that I would like to paint my own car and lucked out and found a vocational school in my area that offers a 3 month class where we can work on our own cars but we have to purchase our own paint.

So here are my questions:

1. The Ford Crown Victoria has a known paint problem from the factory where it flakes off in spots so if I repaint the car is it absolutely necessary to take the car down to bare metal before I repaint it? I know the areas with rust will have to be taken down to bare metal.....

2. I want to use all SPI products and either Wanda or Motobase as a basecoat paint with the same Ford Prefromance white color currently on the car. So as a total beginner I was just wondering what SPI products would be best for this job as a total beginner.
 

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#2
Restoring a car and repainting a car are two completely different animals.
In a restoration the car is stripped down to a shell, then stripped to bare metal, then covered with two coats of epoxy inside and out.
With a Crown Vic you will need at least a gallon of epoxy (makes 2 gallons sprayable). Barry has his Perfect Paint Job step by step process here: https://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/perfect-paint-job and it is what I followed in my signature car restoration once I found SPI.
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elwood

Registered Users
#3
Good advice from 68. If it is already flaking off take all of it to metal everywhere. New paint is only as good as what is under it. Epoxy bare metal always. More work doing it right but less worry later.
 
#6
You gain some knowledge plus get to work on your own vehicle, sounds like a good program!

Yep. Got lucky. Only 500$ for the program. Just have to buy your own paint. I will be buying my own spray guns however. Going with a Harbor Freight gun to shoot my primer and a mid range Devilbiss for the base and clear.
 

D.C

New Member
#7
Yep. Got lucky. Only 500$ for the program. Just have to buy your own paint. I will be buying my own spray guns however. Going with a Harbor Freight gun to shoot my primer and a mid range Devilbiss for the base and clear.
That's a heck of a deal! You can easily waste that much money trying to educate yourself (such as I have). Wish you the best of luck on your project and hope it brings you a new career (if you choose to do so)!!
 
#8
It's been a while since I've been around here and I've got a basic type of question. I acquired a 1977 Goldwing GL1000 a few months back and I'm going to have to paint the panels. The only base color I've found that is an almost perfect match is from Martin Senour. Is this a good brand and if not, then what is a better recommendation? The color is an "Aquamarine Pearl, code 778" from a 2007-2009 Lexus.
 
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