anotheridiot
Member
Why would they go thru all that trouble and not throw down a coat of sealer? You might as well seal quarters with black, doors with white, fenders with gray and the hood with what was left over in the cup from the three different colors making a different shade of gray, scuff down the trunk lid with no sealer and expect the silver metallic to come out the same shade.
dhutton01
Backyard Hack
You are in a river in Egypt.
Color has a lot of flop. Slight differences in angle makes big difference in appearance. Get a sun gun and look at the car in the dark while slightly rotating the gun etc....This has nothing to do with spray technique, sealer, prep etc imho. You even have a tech tip from GM detailing the same issue.
Don
jcclark
Oldtimer
I just had the same thing happen with a silver Kia that had been keyed.
Painted the new upper right bumper (old one damaged), existing scratched left upper bumper, the scratched hatch,
the scratched door and the qtr panel between them.
Everything matched except the door, it's darker.
All the other panels matched great.
The pictures don't show it, but out in the sun, the door is darker.
All painted the same time.
The door had the largest deepest scratch and had more base over the sanded scratch
which didn't go through the factory primer so I didn't prime it.
I think now, that was a mistake.
Painted the new upper right bumper (old one damaged), existing scratched left upper bumper, the scratched hatch,
the scratched door and the qtr panel between them.
Everything matched except the door, it's darker.
All the other panels matched great.
The pictures don't show it, but out in the sun, the door is darker.
All painted the same time.
The door had the largest deepest scratch and had more base over the sanded scratch
which didn't go through the factory primer so I didn't prime it.
I think now, that was a mistake.
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madgoat
I would like to think this new silver sprayed would have layed out evenly and proper looking with a sealer used. But I suppose they felt not necessary to do a sealer shooting base color in 3 coats across the whole car which had an xlnt paint job.
The 1/4's do not bulge that much to have this severe of a flop I feel. I only have seen this in new Camaros but their 1/4's almost look like a wide body kit is on the car next to the flat doors.
Not happy. But it is what it is unless someone on this forum wants to repaint it for free ;-)
The 1/4's do not bulge that much to have this severe of a flop I feel. I only have seen this in new Camaros but their 1/4's almost look like a wide body kit is on the car next to the flat doors.
Not happy. But it is what it is unless someone on this forum wants to repaint it for free ;-)
dhutton01
Backyard Hack
Lay a straight edge across the door gap where the mismatch is worse and post a photo....
First pic you posted quarter is lighter than door. Second pic it is darker. Flop.....
Don
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madgoat
Yes Don, the 1/4 appears darker - and door lighter - in one angle pic. And then lighter in the 1/4 - and darker in the door - should you pull the car in the opposite way and look at it.
Flop. As in it flip flops. Yup. And it is uniformly different the whole length of the 1/4 to door.
Just wish the shop sprayed sealer this time before redoing the base coats. That is all I can now point to as to why this is (still) happening.
The 1/4 to door is relatively flat for about 6 to 8 inches in. Nothing as extreme as a new Camaro or as shown in the attached GM bulletin about flop at the fold. That is why it is killing me as it is right at the gap, which is for the most part flat. The door to 1/4 is not that extreme at all I feel for it to change that much there.
Flop. As in it flip flops. Yup. And it is uniformly different the whole length of the 1/4 to door.
Just wish the shop sprayed sealer this time before redoing the base coats. That is all I can now point to as to why this is (still) happening.
The 1/4 to door is relatively flat for about 6 to 8 inches in. Nothing as extreme as a new Camaro or as shown in the attached GM bulletin about flop at the fold. That is why it is killing me as it is right at the gap, which is for the most part flat. The door to 1/4 is not that extreme at all I feel for it to change that much there.
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madgoat
Paint difference is completely uniform from the whole 1/4 to the whole door. And the lower 1/4 to door is nearly flat all the way through and not a drastic change or flare out.
Here is what I think happened but shop denies: when originally painted the 1/4's and roof (only) got reprayed and thus have a tad more paint and not all original with the rest of the car. Subsequent re-clear a month or so ago totally brought issue to light.
Then sanding and re-spraying base coat over the old paint of course did not change the issue you still see today. In bright light not so bad. But in the shade of a garage, you totally see flop and it reverses on the whole 1/4 and door depending which way car is pulled in and you look at it.
I am feeling they should have sealed the car before respraying color this time.
Most recent indoor photo below (same on both sides).
Here is what I think happened but shop denies: when originally painted the 1/4's and roof (only) got reprayed and thus have a tad more paint and not all original with the rest of the car. Subsequent re-clear a month or so ago totally brought issue to light.
Then sanding and re-spraying base coat over the old paint of course did not change the issue you still see today. In bright light not so bad. But in the shade of a garage, you totally see flop and it reverses on the whole 1/4 and door depending which way car is pulled in and you look at it.
I am feeling they should have sealed the car before respraying color this time.
Most recent indoor photo below (same on both sides).
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