Converting Booth to LED

I was never in paneled with aluminum or stainless room heh but yes sure white reflects. Gloss white wouldn't more then flat?

And i withdraw saying "great" for a choice of led tubes cause after thinking about it, i shouldn't say that w/o hands on time.
Its the way of the future, they'll only improve from here. My father says there's still wasted energy cause they got quite warm.
 
wood paneling was big in the 60's. houses were dark and gloomy. white walls light up the whole room. my painting days are numbered so i will just stick with the lights i have. no way i will drop that kind of money replacing fixtures.
 
Light output in specs look good. 120 lumens per watt 120x40=4,800 for that 8 footer.
I've seen brighter but that'll come with increased heat most of the time so i say they decent. Keep us posted.

I ordered 64 feet of leds in stickyback tape form. Gonna play, bought narrow roll of aluminum flashing, some angle, some aluminum c channel & realized i payed more for a 4' length of channel then a 4' led t8 lol.

10" x 10' roll of flashing cost same. I'm thinking of making 1/2 inch thick max light box for wall. Just playing but might work for cheap & want that wall area to stay flush-ish.

If nothing else i'll boarder bedroom ceiling & have low voltage emergency lighting. Car battery on trickle charge. I want cheap plastic frosted crown molding :)
 
I tried these so far. I put 2 strips full length of a 8' angle aluminum piece. Results- buy the bulbs already done. Tape is nice for custom lighting where you don't see lights.
Tomorrow another type with smaller leds and 3x many per foot arrive. 12v, whereas these are 24. 12v with resistor to lower car voltage a tad i see uses for. Leds are super sensitive to voltage increases above rated.

Pat- booth coating sounds cool for busy booth.

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Well, original post over a year ago. I finally got around to doing something. I converted the shop from 400 watt metal-halide to 150 watt LED. It's only been a few days so I can speak to the long term but the 150 watt LED are much brighter than the 400 watt MH. I found 4500 color spectrum that I like. The only down side is don't look up, it's like looking at someone welding. You'll see spots for a while. I bought them off Amazon, five "UFO" high bays ran me a little over 700 bucks.

I also bought enough LED replacements for T8's for the walls of the paint booth, again in the 4500 color range. Not blinding but bright. I bought the ballast bypass ones so install took about 20 minutes or so per fixture. I converted 6 fixtures for testing. I like it enough I've ordered enough to do the other 8 angle lights overhead. Later I'll order enough for the mix room. Bought off Amazon as a 6 pack, I can't remember but seems like 50 bucks a six pack, maybe more, I don't remember. One thing to consider is I had a few bad sockets, note buy some to have on hand when you are converting. In my simple mind, I thought florescent not working, bulb or ballast, LED bypass will fix both. Well not when the socket is broken....

Bottom line...me like...
 
I converted my company's approx. 20 year old office , warehouse , & a few paint shop lights to the bypass led's this past January. Local bulb supply chain store prices on the damar bulbs were good with opening an account & they delivered for free next day. I had to run to store to pick up a few sockets myself, that's just life. But, bottom line here, with a building full of aging ballasts vs the level & price led stuff is at now along with approx. 45% energy saving over the 4' & 8' florescents, it was a good investment.
Ain't heard any complaints about lighting, complaints about buzzing, or complaints about instant light when it was still winter.
Still need to add a bunch of lighting to my hole in the wall paint shop. The supply store said they had fixture housings with no ballasts, so that may be the most economical route. Homestore prices on LED fixtures are still way too high for not much of a product.
 
To jlcustomz did you go with frosted or clear bypass bulbs and what heat rating? thanks
These were the 6500k 15 w 4' from light bulb depot. See link. My price was about 8 bucks each locally with account. Nice clean brite white. Frosted.
Like I said, most went into office & warehouse, only a couple right now in paint shop ..Just need some fixtures and time.
https://www.lightbulbdepot.com/prod...temsPerPage=10&offset=30&returnPage=products/

The best deal for the money is 4' assemblies from Sam's club I got for home carport 3 years ago. Nice stiff cast aluminum housing, I think was 5k light, 4500 lumens (twin strips). Were around 35 bucks each then. They are clear see through, not what you really want to paint with, but great low cost complete cord plug in units for workspace.
 
Another item of interest for led bulbs, Damar makes an 8' 4 bulb blank housing for the t-8 led bulbs. Quoted 38.52 locally. So that would work out to a little over $70 plus tax with 4 bulbs. Integrated led is cool in a way, but something about being able to snap in whatever the hell bulb I want if/ when needed or if a better bulb comes out in the future makes better sense to me. They also have blue & red bulbs , which could be cool for a small area of interest.
Manufacturer part #44-232tanled
https://www.lightbulbdepot.com/products/details/?item=02915K
I think light bulb depot said they'd warranty the damar bulbs for 3 years, but approx. 20 years average usage many manufacturers claim, please, I ain't stupid. I don't like any salespeople telling me what I want unless I agree.
 
16 months passed geeze. 1 of my led t8's failed after all that time & it was circuit inside tube, not leds.
I'm cool with that. Have an extra one on hand.
 
As technology continues more lower cost items always pop up. Thought these were pretty cool for what they are & cost .

Home depot now has these little all plastic compact 4' led shop light for $ 12.97 each so I got a few to try for a little quick additional light and for just a mobile work light. They are 19 watt, 1850 lumens ,4000 rated , frosted, so not a really super great light, but for 13 bucks why not have a few.
Could work pretty good to toss under a vehicle or all sorts of utility uses or clamping to a stand for a little extra painting light.

Just don't let the kids or grandkids think it's a star wars light sabre. I'm sure the electronics aren't as tough as the plastic case.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commerc...Utility-Shop-Light-Fixture-74062-HD/205747464
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Stuck an end under hood latch of truck, camera flash off.
 
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i bought some small led's from amazon. about 10 inch. great for under the lift. magnet on each end. 9.99 .
 
Reflectance is a complicated subject. Flat vs glossy may have more effect on the directionality of the reflected light than the actual reflectivity.
For example, we would not want our spray booth to be made of mirrors, even though they would be very reflective. The problem would be that the reflected light from mirrors would mostly not be going in useful directions. A coating that is reflective but scatters light is much more helpful, and white paint fits the bill. I'm not going to get into whether gloss, semi-gloss, or flat is most effective because I simply don't know. My guess is that in house paint, there's probably not a hell of a lot of difference.
 
we discovered this about 35 years ago . shiny walls cast shadows. flat walls are like frosted lens . gives you more even light reflection .
 
Reflectance is a complicated subject. Flat vs glossy may have more effect on the directionality of the reflected light than the actual reflectivity.
For example, we would not want our spray booth to be made of mirrors, even though they would be very reflective. The problem would be that the reflected light from mirrors would mostly not be going in useful directions. A coating that is reflective but scatters light is much more helpful, and white paint fits the bill. I'm not going to get into whether gloss, semi-gloss, or flat is most effective because I simply don't know. My guess is that in house paint, there's probably not a hell of a lot of difference.


And this is a true statement which is what should be posted here, not information that is incorrect. LOl Flat is more reflective Ha! But thanks for posting accurate info Crashtech!
 
we discovered this about 35 years ago . shiny walls cast shadows. flat walls are like frosted lens . gives you more even light reflection .
Incorrect terminology. Flat absolutely does not reflect more light. read posts above, accurate information there.
 
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